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Kala UBass Megathread, Part 6

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Well thanks for the amateur comment, but i've been playing since 1974 in many bands and situations, so I have a little time under my belt. Yes I agree you should try to get the best sound possible, which is what i'm striving to do, but I came to the conclusion the amount of finger noise and squeaks was not an issue in the situations I was playing. The reason for the noise from the strings is because of a particular string i'm using called silver rumblers, which makes more noises than the standard strings that come on the Ubass. Thanks for your pro advice though!
 
Yes. I worked out the technique acoustically first. My first teachers Steve Matthews (electric) and Bob Bowen (upright, RIP), both stressed to make the strings and the instrument itself vibrate and sing their best and make whatever is coming out of the output jack the best possible so you have the best possible signal to start with.

With the U-Bass you need gear that has a very high impedance input, and the ability to deal with the upper mids that cause the unnatural finger pull-off noise this pickup transmits. I've tried several things. Here's the best:

1. F-Deck + SFX red dragon: The red dragon has an amazing tone knob that perfectly tones the highs down to compensate. Max's B3 pedal has the same tone circuit and a mid scoop (which would probably also be a benefit) but I have not tried that pedal).

2. LR Baggs Para-EQ. Perfect form factor, sounds very tight and very strong and thick, you have to turn the knobs pretty far, but it sounds wonderful.

3. Fishman Pro platinum EQ. Works very well especially on a budget.

4. Preamp (like F-Deck) + VT bass or Sansamp BDDI. These boxes have the ability to scoop high mids very well. You just need a high impedance preamp before it to solidify the lows. The VT gives warm OD that can vintage up your attacks. I used the VT on the U-Bas til I found the red dragon.

5. Get lucky with a good rig. A rig that is polite in the upper mids naturally (Aguilar, my next foray with amps), Genz, Acoustic Image, are good. I actually found a couple GK models pretty controllable, surprisingly.

First, get the F-Deck, then play your Ubass and F-Deck through lots of rigs to find what sounds right to you.
 
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I agree about the SR's, they do make more finger noise, and we do what we can to compensate. The one time I hear another bassist playing a U-Bass live, it was a rock situation. His sound had lots of highs and scratch solo, but not at all in the mix. Some situations the solo sound matters more than in others, no doubt. Just in most of my situations, I have to play solos while they quiet down.
 
The silver rumblers were supposed to be this great middle ground, but for me they were just as unplayably sticky as thunderguts. Higher tension pahoehoes that stabilize in less than several weeks and are still slick would be wonderful. There's gotta be a way.
 
Has anyone with the built-in preamp had a problem with the little tuner button sticking? I can get the tuner button to engage but I can't easily pop that button back up, I have to kind of coax it from the side to lift up and release out of tuner mode. I'm guessing it's just a little spring or something that's out of place. Anyone know if this is an easy fix?
 
The silver rumblers were supposed to be this great middle ground, but for me they were just as unplayably sticky as thunderguts. Higher tension pahoehoes that stabilize in less than several weeks and are still slick would be wonderful. There's gotta be a way.

I just sent back an unused set of five string Silver Rumblers because I didn't care for the string texture either. But... the low B in the set was one of the new "Thunder Red" strings and the texture was fantastic! I know that unstrung texture may not be the same as it is when tuned to pitch but I didn't want to take the chance.

I'll stick with Pahoehoehoehoes until the Thunder Reds become available, and then try those. Please, Mimmo - please!!!
 
Yeah, Mimmo, what about those !@##ed thunder reds? I´m also waiting for them to be in the market, your web page says: "Coming soon! (may 2013)"... Come on man, may is already here! :)

Can´t wait to try them... ;)

Want-to-buy-want-to-buy-want-to...
 
I love the Fdeck! Made my Ubass a monster! I play through a Carvin MB15 with a 15" ext cab. Sounds great and the Fdeck works great when just running a line out to the PA with no amp. The Silver Rumblers do have a fantastic sound and the fleck did help calm down some of the squeaks they produce, but i've found that how I attack the strings helps. By that I mean how aggressive and where on the strings I pluck or use my thumb. Also the powder on the strings and hands seems to calm things down a bit. I guess keeping things dry is whats going on with the powder.
 
This question is for TBer scotch, but please everyone chime in,
Way back in megathread 3, you posted a bunch of sound samples to compare strings. One sample was with a pahoehoe E and A and a thundergut D and G. How did that work out? How did it feel? I've been considering doing th same thing but with SR d and g. The horrible stickiness of either the TG"s or SR's was only bad on the e and a but the d and were fine.
Your sample sounded great to my ears. The tension on the bass side is going to be lower than on the treble side but I can't imagine that really being a problem

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/kala-ubass-megathread-part-3-a-866574/index10.html
 
i'm new to this forum. thanks for all the great info provided here.

i just got my spruce top fretless ubass, but the shadow pickup has a strange gap on the left.

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hope this is not common.

i already had 2 solid mahogany fretless sent back because they had pick up problem (dead E and A strings), so i decided to try this one. perhaps the current batch of solid hog has poor quality control. well, this spruce top sounds normal, but then i have this strange problem with the gap at the edge.

appreciate any advice.
 
My preamp control doesn't have a gap like that, but the tuner button doesn't work right. I might unscrew it and see if it's something I can get at and fix.

Looking at your pic again, I wonder if they just didn't get the shielding trimmed around the perimeter. I can just kind of see edge of the shielding tape in the gap on mine.
 
I have a spruce top and I'm very happy with it. I've used it several times on gospel gigs and it's been great. i did have some mild feedback issues but I bought a sound hole cover and it does help.

But I have a question: I'm thinking about having it defretted (I should have bought a fretless)
Is that possible for an instrument of this type? and how much should it cost?
 
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