KKK Style Hat

[Dr Stankface]

You dont have to answer to get your point across. It comes across loud and clear. I think thats a weak way to respond to a legitimate argument based on daily observation and my own, very centrist, political view.

You're in Tuscaloosa. Your opinion doesn't matter.

A friendly jab from your neighborhood Auburn fan.

 

[CrispyDelicious]

How can I address these issues without appearing to be predjudiced in your opinion?

Well, that depends what issues you are concerned with.

You see, if you were really concerned about racial prejudice, racial divides, and outright racism, I would think you would not always post only about white vs. black racism. Now, in the past your defense to this has been 'Well, I'm a professor of black things, so naturally it follows that I post about that which I'm familiar with". To a degree I can agree with that, however, I find it odd that you ONLY post about black vs. white racism. No other kind.

One would think that if you were genuinely concerned about racism as a thing that affects people of all colors, in all directions, then you might take the time to do research outside of white vs. black racism, find some articles, and brings those to the table as well.

I mean, how can we truly understand racial prejudice unless we look at it from all the angles available to us? The way you go about it, you only address a very small facet of a much greater issue.

So ask yourself, do you really care about racism in all it's forms, or do you, as I suspect, concern yourself only with white vs. black racism? Therein lies your apparent prejudice: you really only want to talk about white people being racist. It's obvious.

Now, as much as I grind your gears about this, I still can't argue with promoting understanding - but if you're going to do it, you might want to look at it from more than one angle, because there's a lot to be learned from it. Then I would have no problem with you being the 'race thread guy' on TBOT. Unfortunately, you're not the 'race thread guy', rather, you're the 'guy who constantly obsesses over white people being racist to black people'. Maybe not to everyone, but to a lot of us.

 

[Big B.]

You're in Alabama. Your opinion doesn't matter.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Wasted Bassist]

Fixed it for you.

So many lols.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I don't always post white/black issues and there have been times when I posted topics like advice on a questionaire and you felt a need to make smart remarks about race. That is just a personal attack, not a criticism.

As I said before white/black issues interest me. Why should I have to write about the Tamils and Sinhalese to prove I'm not predjudiced?


UOTE=CrispyDelicious;9812888]Well, that depends what issues you are concerned with.

You see, if you were really concerned about racial prejudice, racial divides, and outright racism, I would think you would not always post only about white vs. black racism. Now, in the past your defense to this has been 'Well, I'm a professor of black things, so naturally it follows that I post about that which I'm familiar with". To a degree I can agree with that, however, I find it odd that you ONLY post about black vs. white racism. No other kind.

One would think that if you were genuinely concerned about racism as a thing that affects people of all colors, in all directions, then you might take the time to do research outside of white vs. black racism, find some articles, and brings those to the table as well.

I mean, how can we truly understand racial prejudice unless we look at it from all the angles available to us? The way you go about it, you only address a very small facet of a much greater issue.

So ask yourself, do you really care about racism in all it's forms, or do you, as I suspect, concern yourself only with white vs. black racism? Therein lies your apparent prejudice: you really only want to talk about white people being racist. It's obvious.

Now, as much as I grind your gears about this, I still can't argue with promoting understanding - but if you're going to do it, you might want to look at it from more than one angle, because there's a lot to be learned from it. Then I would have no problem with you being the 'race thread guy' on TBOT. Unfortunately, you're not the 'race thread guy', rather, you're the 'guy who constantly obsesses over white people being racist to black people'. Maybe not to everyone, but to a lot of us.[/QUOTE]

 

[zenrad]

Lol, I saw the knight's helmet to!

Me too.

If it was supposed to be a KKK hat, which I always assumed was designed to hide one's face, this would be a major KKK hood fail.

 

[zenrad]

You can't find my fetishes in any magazine.

Sig worthy

 

[CrispyDelicious]

As I said before white/black issues interest me. Why should I have to write about the Tamils and Sinhalese to prove I'm not predjudiced?

So I was right. You don't give a crap about anyting besides white people being racist against black people. Good for you; you're not here to promote understanding, and you don't feel the need to educate yourself beyond your current knowledge of white vs. black affairs. You're just going to keep on talking about how white people are racist, need to adjust themselves, etc etc. No responsibility on anyone elses part. Wonderful.

 

[Phalex]

:: cue phalex ::

Sorry man. I had to do some actual work.

Seriously!

Stay in School!

 

[sloasdaylight]

Sig worthy

Yup

 

[need4mospd]

I got told in art class in 3rd or 4th grade that my little plus symbol with a few extra lines on it wasn't appropriate. Quite embarrassing to someone that doesn't know anything about "offensive" things. Like myself, he would have learned in his history class in a couple years that pointy hats, or swastikas, aren't too cool. Instead, he gets embarrassed by all the exposure of his purely innocent act. All his school mates will now refer to him as a KKK member now. All this for what appeared to be a knights hat. What does society gain from this, other than a sensationalized news story?

What happened to being offended at harmful actions, not harmless words and symbols? IMO, this story just detracts from real racism that happens and just makes everyone involved look like idiots.

I'm clearly a racist by saying these things, so feel free to be offended.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

So I was right. You don't give a crap about anyting besides white people being racist against black people. Good for you; you're not here to promote understanding, and you don't feel the need to educate yourself beyond your current knowledge of white vs. black affairs. You're just going to keep on talking about how white people are racist, need to adjust themselves, etc etc. No responsibility on anyone elses part. Wonderful.

I dare you to look at all of my posts and tell me that I am only concerned about black/white issues. They do concern me, but I have actually posted about many international issues if you care to look. I do not post about as many as I used to because they can often veer into political topics which are banned here.

The things I do post about are subjects in which I have some indepth knowledge about. That is why I don't post about the Sinhalese and Tamils or about the treatment of religious minorities in Iran. Would you seriously ask others to post about things that really have no knowlege of just to prove a point?

 

[electracoyote]

What happened to being offended at harmful actions, not harmless words and symbols? IMO, this story just detracts from real racism that happens and just makes everyone involved look like idiots.

Great post.

The word "racism" has been so misused, abused, and stretched out of shape, I don't think most people who use it really understand the deep, profound meaning of the word. It's become like the word "gay" with young people today, which gets used for everything. Or the word "homo" back in the day. Or the word "wolf" in "The Parable of the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf." Keep abusing and mis-using that word, and people may become de-sensitized to it and subsequently overlook real racism when it presents itself.

 

[bassrique]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointed_hat

 

[CrispyDelicious]

The things I do post about are subjects in which I have some indepth knowledge about. That is why I don't post about the Sinhalese and Tamils or about the treatment of religious minorities in Iran. Would seriously ask others to post about things that really have no knowlege of just to prove a point?

So we're in agreement? You aren't concerned about racism as a whole. You only care about white racism against blacks. So much so you don't even bother to educate yourself about racism in other contexts, which would certanly offer insight into the issue. You'd rather look at racism from one perspective only. That's fine, just going go bandying about the line that you want to 'promote understanding'.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

So we're in agreement? You aren't concerned about racism as a whole. You only care about white racism against blacks. So much so you don't even bother to educate yourself about racism in other contexts, which would certanly offer insight into the issue. You'd rather look at racism from one perspective only. That's fine, just going go bandying about the line that you want to 'promote understanding'.

You know that is not what I said. You just want an internet fight.

 

[electracoyote]

So we're in agreement? You aren't concerned about racism as a whole. You only care about white racism against blacks. So much so you don't even bother to educate yourself about racism in other contexts, which would certanly offer insight into the issue. You'd rather look at racism from one perspective only. That's fine, just going go bandying about the line that you want to 'promote understanding'.

Crispy, Cheese knows full well that the majority of TB'ers couldn't care less about the Sinhalese or Tamils. And it is plainly evident that Cheese race threads (you must specify them as such) are almost exclusively white-on-black racism and oppression, and he maintains he is under no obligation to present race in any other way. He has made all this abundantly clear ad infinitum.

Why are all the Cheese race threads white-on-black racism/oppression in nature? That's a question I've never gotten a straight, honest answer to, and I doubt you will get one either. One can only speculate.

Without a comprehensive, straight, honest explanation for his race thread tendancies, it is logical to assume an underlying bias or prejudice of his own, but for Cheese to admit that would make him human and compromise the moral high ground he wishes to maintain. You can't continue to heighten the profile of whites who are biased against blacks, when you yourself are a black man who has similar biases and prejudices against whites. So don't expect an admission of such.

Threads like this are very speculative, divisive, and controversial. I have stated many times that, if you want to take the podium and routinely post this kind of stuff, don't be surprised or offended when you become the subject of speculation regarding your motives. And if you can't supply solid explanations for your motives, don't get upset when people make controversial assumptions about them.

You don't get to pick and choose. It's not like, "I choose to routinely post slanted stories of white-on-black racism/oppression, but don't pick on me!"

It doesn't work like that.

 

[bassteban]

Maybe it really is a KKK hat & they're trying to bring in some diversity?

OK, shoot me now...

 

[Marlat]

Ummmm......how exactly is this a thread about white people being racist towards black people ?

 

[sloasdaylight]

Crispy, Cheese knows full well that the majority of TB'ers couldn't care less about the Sinhalese or Tamils. And it is plainly evident that Cheese race threads (you must specify them as such) are almost exclusively white-on-black racism and oppression, and he maintains he is under no obligation to present race in any other way. He has made all this abundantly clear ad infinitum.

Why are all the Cheese race threads white-on-black racism/oppression in nature? That's a question I've never gotten a straight, honest answer to, and I doubt you will get one either. One can only speculate.

Without a comprehensive, straight, honest explanation for his race thread tendancies, it is logical to assume an underlying bias or prejudice of his own, but for Cheese to admit that would make him human and compromise the moral high ground he wishes to maintain. You can't continue to heighten the profile of whites who are biased against blacks, when you yourself are a black man who has similar biases and prejudices against whites. So don't expect an admission of such.

Threads like this are very speculative, divisive, and controversial. I have stated many times that, if you want to take the podium and routinely post this kind of stuff, don't be surprised or offended when you become the subject of speculation regarding your motives. And if you can't supply solid explanations for your motives, don't get upset when people make controversial assumptions about them.

You don't get to pick and choose. It's not like, "I choose to routinely post slanted stories of white-on-black racism/oppression, but don't pick on me!"

It doesn't work like that.

He's not under any kind of obligation to post anything other than what interests him. You can argue with him all you want about what he posts and why, but you can't expect anyone to post about things that don't interest them. I may have come down on that side of the argument in the past, but it's a poor, and intellectually dishonest stance to take.