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LAKLAND OWNERS GROUP #48

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Great information!

Does the TH500 have AGS?
It has a drive section but it remains to be seen what it will behave like. From the looks of the front panel, there is no engage/disengage for the drive, simply a knob that you turn up or down. So I'm wondering if it'll have the same roll-off of the highs. Also, Dave B. at Aguilar did say that this won't have the same amount of overdrive capability as the Tone Hammer pedal, but rather more of a vintage grit.
 
He uses a Yamaha I believe.

You are correct. I think he has a signiture model....with a P pickup[/QUOTE]

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who cares what "non-bass players" think (he he!)...WE Care and I can hear a diffenece...I think the difference is more pronounced live....

The Vintage is more mellow and thicker.

The Neos remind me more of what I hear from Sadowskys etc.....more modern and bright...

I've listened over and over again, and I like the Neo's they just really wack you in the face : ) Not that the Vintage Pups sound bad, they sound great too. I just think I could dial in the Vintage tone but would have a harder time getting to the more modern sound of the Neo's from the Vintage. So right now, Neo's are where I am leaning. I wish we had more samples - but having any is a great thing.
 
glad to see you guys again! looks like I stepped in in the right monent, when everyone is peeking in TB :)

Sounds like you're doing some interesting things with your Lakies.
Is that a correct way to say 'don't mess with well-done things or you'll spoil them, you imbecile!"? :D
In fact, I was feeling a chi-loaded bass was too dark for fretless and simultaneously checking my guess that, once fretted, it could make a good alternative to a P-bass (which it did).
It seems like European players really like their zing. Did you all listen to too much Mark King?:p
well, technically, I did listen to Mark King. But since Andy claims that not all of us did yet, I have to go now and make sure all the rest do their homework. Ought I kill those who wouldn't listen to King, sir?

But no, my interest lies in the 70-ies JB field if we're talking about the bridge pickup sound. I actually like the neck pickup sound as it is.

Not all of us. Currently trying to eliminate zing from my newly acquired 55-02 (Lakland pickups, factory steel round wounds). Next step ... nickels. If that fails, half-rounds or tapes :)
yep, the LH-3 is zingy. But, with that flexible of a preamp, I think you could get the work done. Did you fiddle with the internal switches? Maybe accenting the low-mids could work for you? Sorry, I don't have the idea of the sound you're after.
Also, you may wanna find and install a set of Barts, the contrary of what I did to my other 55-94 to get more highs. They do change the picture drastically. Sometimes you can get them used here in the Classifieds or at bassgear.com


He he he! Hey Comrad! Yeah..I wonder how you would like an ash bass with ChiSonics. Thinking the mid scoop nature would give you more pronounced highs. I know my ash JO Cs has plenty-o-highs.
that, and a LH-3 stompbox maybe. BTW, any news on its color scheme? ;)
Got any ash 5-string bodies for me to check out?

Flatwounds, babyyyyyyyyy!!!:hyper:

If I wasn't talking about a fretless bass, I might agree with you. Given it's fretless, my goals are slightly different.
That's interesting. Nessie was a fretless and I was running around looking for bright flatwounds or halfrounds.

glad to hear you have been having fun with Nessie....so know which bass has the fretless neck?
the One and Only Standard Semi-Custom Bartolini LH-3 55-94 Decade Plus :D

It is a '97 Standard ash body made for a custom order that was later cancelled, so the body was hanging at Lakland and then matched to a neck in 2001. I added '09 LH-3 pickups to the Bartolini preamp, so this bass was completed in more than a decade :) Not your daddy's frankenbass, he he!

wanna have more fun? check out the "2010 - year of GAS" thread on the LOG.....recounts of many LOGgers ownership throoughout 2010...some very intresting stories there!
Sure thing! Will do!
 
Just got home with my new LE 44-64 Teal. Too tired to post pics and my camera is in the car. After a little neck tweak (it was shipped from Bass Central in Florida to upstate NY) it is singing. I really like it and can't wait for rehearsal fri night. A couple things regarding QC: The volume when rolled off even slightly kicks in a the tone circuit. Unless the volume is full on, it's as if the tone is bleeding through. The tone knob functions as it should. It's not right, but it's kind of neat that just a slight roll off on the vol engages the tone (with NO volume loss unless turned down about a quarter...weird). Not really that big of a deal for me to warrant sending it in for repair. As for the Neo-Punch pups...like em! With the tone rolled off, they are actually quite similar to the Fralins in my Precision. I already threw on some Sunbeams as it came with steel strings and I can't stand steel...much better. Might throw some TI flats on next week if I don't feel too lazy. Anyway that's it for now. Some pics should be up in the next day or so.
 
yep, the LH-3 is zingy. But, with that flexible of a preamp, I think you could get the work done.

Hmm, I'm finding that I can't dial out the zing with the treble control.

Did you fiddle with the internal switches? Maybe accenting the low-mids could work for you? Sorry, I don't have the idea of the sound you're after.

Funnily enough, for other reasons, I did just change the mids selector to 275 (or thereabouts, I changed the the older 55-94 too and I can't remember exactly) and I have found that's had a beneficial effect of de-emphasising the zing.

Also, you may wanna find and install a set of Barts, the contrary of what I did to my other 55-94 to get more highs. They do change the picture drastically. Sometimes you can get them used here in the Classifieds or at bassgear.com

Yeah, could be. So let me see ... I've got a 55-94 (2005, barts) that I really like and a 2008/2009 55-02 with Lakie pickups that's a bit too zingy ... which is contributing more to the zing ... the lakie pickups or the pre-amp ? (ruling out the contribution of the strings just for the moment).

Andy
 
Not all of us. Currently trying to eliminate zing from my newly acquired 55-02 (Lakland pickups, factory steel round wounds). Next step ... nickels. If that fails, half-rounds or tapes :)

Andy
I wanted to mention something else I've used with great success with my 44/55 series basses to tame highs. If you have the mid frequency at the default position of 600 hz, then this works really well. I cut bass and mids back to around 9 o'clock. That means they're pointing almost directly toward the back of the bass. Then roll highs off to taste. Since the treble is centered at 3 khz, this will pull a lot of top end out pretty quickly, but it'll leave a lot of that bite in the 2khz range. Actually, it seems to create a bit of a bump there since I'm also cutting mids and lows. It works VERY well when running these basses in "jazz" mode. After that, I simply adjust the lows to taste, maybe boosting them back up just a touch if necessary. You can even cut the highs completely off when doing this and it removes a lot of that sizzle, but since the lows and mids are also cut it doesn't result in a muted tone.

It might work for you.
 
I wanted to mention something else I've used with great success with my 44/55 series basses to tame highs. If you have the mid frequency at the default position of 600 hz, then this works really well. I cut bass and mids back to around 9 o'clock. That means they're pointing almost directly toward the back of the bass. Then roll highs off to taste. Since the treble is centered at 3 khz, this will pull a lot of top end out pretty quickly, but it'll leave a lot of that bite in the 2khz range. Actually, it seems to create a bit of a bump there since I'm also cutting mids and lows. It works VERY well when running these basses in "jazz" mode. After that, I simply adjust the lows to taste, maybe boosting them back up just a touch if necessary. You can even cut the highs completely off when doing this and it removes a lot of that sizzle, but since the lows and mids are also cut it doesn't result in a muted tone.

It might work for you.

Sounds counter-intuitive, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
 
Sounds counter-intuitive, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
Perhaps, but considering that it's always better to cut than boost it makes sense. Boosting can also add noise, and it removes headroom from a preamp that's only running at 9v. I think you might be surprised how well this little experiment works in a live setting. Sometimes I run both lows and mids at 10 o'clock, which is a little higher, and cut highs almost completely off. The result is a tight, punchy bottom with plenty of warm mids, and a slightly snarly presence with very little sizzle. When combined with nickel strings, it really brings that Jazz bass tone out of these basses when you tap that rear coil. Favoring the front pickup ever so slightly also fattens things up a bit.

I love the sound of a Jazz bass, and the 44/55 basses are the only things I've come across that let me get that tone. I've done a lot of comparisons and tweaks to try and get that tone and feel of a 70's J instrument.

Happy experimenting!
 
Sometimes I run both lows and mids at 10 o'clock, which is a little higher, and cut highs almost completely off. The result is a tight, punchy bottom with plenty of warm mids, and a slightly snarly presence with very little sizzle. When combined with nickel strings, it really brings that Jazz bass tone out of these basses when you tap that rear coil. Favoring the front pickup ever so slightly also fattens things up a bit.

Hmm ... couldn't get that to work for me. I'm pretty close to what I want with mids selected at 275, mid control at 1-2 o'clock and treble at 7-9 o'clock. I think if I go for nickels (versus steels) that will give me a workable range of sounds (bring some treble back in without the zing).

Thanks for the help, all.

Andy
 
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