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Lakland Owners Group #55!

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ShowKing said:
just out of curiosity, does the LH-3 preamp have a gain trim inside the cavity?
i remember my LH-3 55-02 was too quiet for my liking and i now own a US 55-69 which is truly a dream bass.
makes me wonder if there was a gain trim inside the cavity, maybe turning it up would have pleased me?

Yes it does, on the main module where the mid frequency dip switches are. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

And, as always, your Tetsuya is one stunning bass. Who made the red J on the left?
 
If so, is there any way to adjust it so that the strings 'share' the misalignment better. i.e. shifting something so that the E and G strings are 2mm off, and A and D strings are 1mm off?

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The neck alignment looks to be pretty much spot on. Meaning both E and G Strings are aligned well at the neck pocket.

The only way I can imagine to correct this without remounting the Bridge slightly lower and then tweaking the neck towards the E-String (Bass) side, would be to see if the pickups can slide upward towards the E-String side slightly in efforts to align the A and D Strings which would then make the E and G String pole pieces appear to be better aligned as a balance.

Moving the bridge is not something that many folks would want to tackle. You would also be required to re-drill the string holes to match up with the existing ferrules on the back. therefore, realigning the pickups in the existing route would likely be the best and most simple approach at this point if permissible.
 
tescott said:
Hey guys,

I've had this US DJ4 for a couple of years now. I decided to replace the current lakland pups replaced with aeros, so I contacted Larry to get things going. He asked me to measure the string spacing, and now that I've had a good look, I've noticed that the strings don't line up between the pickup pole pieces. The E string sits perfectly between its pole pieces, while the G string is about 3-4mm off-centre, with the A and D strings each being a little off centre, increasing to the G.

I'm aware that the DJ4 has slightly narrower bridge spacing, and that's what's causing the misalignment, and so I'm not too fussed as far as that goes. My problem is that Larry at Aero said that the strings must align with the pickups for good resolution, and that anything other than that will cause problems. So, my question to twofold:

Has anyone with Aeros in the DJ4 had this problem, and was it a problem for the sound? Or even any other pickups? This could be partly why I'm not 100% happy with the lakland pups.

If so, is there any way to adjust it so that the strings 'share' the misalignment better. i.e. shifting something so that the E and G strings are 2mm off, and A and D strings are 1mm off?

I've not heard that the bridge spacing on a DJ is narrower, I think you're mistaken. And I've noticed that almost all jazz bass pickup builders NEVER get the poles perfectly under the strings. It's a flaw that started w/ Leo Fender and since there's no apparent negative affect, very few p'up makers corrected it. I think the guy at Aero is assuming your strings are WAY off center, which IMO and IME, they aren't. You can always call Lakland for help and advice.

But, if you want.... the only thing you can try besides plugging the holes and redrilling to move the bridge south a couple millimeters (NO!!!)..... is to loosen the strings considerably, loosen the neck bolts a little, and see if you can shift the neck angle in the pocket by gently pulling the headstock toward the floor (in playing position) or towards the lower horn. If there's some wiggle room in the neck route then you will see the strings migrate south across the pickups and fretboard a little. Hold the neck in this position while tightening the neck bolts.

This is a common setup procedure for fixing issues such as yours or for basses w/ strings too close to either side of the fretboard.... nothing to be afraid of. Just be sure to be careful since US Laklands generally have tight neck pockets.
 
RumbleBeeAL said:
The neck alignment looks to be pretty much spot on. Meaning both E and G Strings are aligned well at the neck pocket.

therefore, realigning the pickups in the existing route would likely be the best and most simple approach at this point if permissible.

I agree that his strings look aligned well at the pocket, but he still could shift the headstock south a bit.

Those p'up routes look tight :-/ and he'd probably need to plug the p'up screwholes and redrill them unless he wants to just muscle them north and hope for the best??
 
The spacing on the DJ and Hollowbody models is 0.75", where all their other 4-strings are 0.78". Its on their website. The difference, 0.03", is about 1mm, matching the 3-4mm discrepancy on my G-string.

Thanks for the info about many basses not aligning. That helps me to relax a bit.

I should have mentioned that I contacted Brian at Lakland and he said that they didn't have any problems with misalignment like this. Sorry I left that out!

And yes, the pickup routes are tight... I'm going to get the stock aeros anyway, and if there's a problem, I'll think about how to shift the pickups up 2mm.
 
tescott said:
The spacing on the DJ and Hollowbody models is 0.75", where all their other 4-strings are 0.78". Its on their website.

Learn something new everyday. Weird that they did that!

Oh.... you could swap the bridge out for one that allows side to side adjustment. Some people do that w/ their Laklands but most wanna keep that trademark oval look :-).
 
Yes it does, on the main module where the mid frequency dip switches are. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

And, as always, your Tetsuya is one stunning bass. Who made the red J on the left?

Thanks for that, I see it now.
Too bad I didn't get a chance to play with that while I had my 55-02.

The red bass is also a tetsuya model by ESP but as a production line by Edwards in Japan. It is a very good bass but very heavy compared to the Lakland.
 
The spacing on the DJ and Hollowbody models is 0.75", where all their other 4-strings are 0.78". Its on their website. The difference, 0.03", is about 1mm, matching the 3-4mm discrepancy on my G-string.

Learn something new everyday. Weird that they did that!

Oh.... you could swap the bridge out for one that allows side to side adjustment. Some people do that w/ their Laklands but most wanna keep that trademark oval look :-).

+1, this is odd. Maybe a typo on the Lakland web site?

0.03" is small. Though when stacked up across 4X or 5X across strings, I can see where the difference adds up.

Maybe this is why some manufacturers design their pickups to conceal the poles?...
 
The spacing on the DJ and Hollowbody models is 0.75", where all their other 4-strings are 0.78". Its on their website. The difference, 0.03", is about 1mm, matching the 3-4mm discrepancy on my G-string.

Thanks for the info about many basses not aligning. That helps me to relax a bit.

I should have mentioned that I contacted Brian at Lakland and he said that they didn't have any problems with misalignment like this. Sorry I left that out!

And yes, the pickup routes are tight... I'm going to get the stock aeros anyway, and if there's a problem, I'll think about how to shift the pickups up 2mm.

Perhaps the aero pickups will be better aligned as the bass was originally designed with those pickups in mind. When they went to Lakland pickups they put in the same pickups that are in the JO.
 
Hey guys,

I've had this US DJ4 for a couple of years now. I decided to replace the current lakland pups replaced with aeros, so I contacted Larry to get things going. He asked me to measure the string spacing, and now that I've had a good look, I've noticed that the strings don't line up between the pickup pole pieces. The E string sits perfectly between its pole pieces, while the G string is about 3-4mm off-centre, with the A and D strings each being a little off centre, increasing to the G.

I'm aware that the DJ4 has slightly narrower bridge spacing, and that's what's causing the misalignment, and so I'm not too fussed as far as that goes. My problem is that Larry at Aero said that the strings must align with the pickups for good resolution, and that anything other than that will cause problems. So, my question to twofold:

Has anyone with Aeros in the DJ4 had this problem, and was it a problem for the sound? Or even any other pickups? This could be partly why I'm not 100% happy with the lakland pups.

If so, is there any way to adjust it so that the strings 'share' the misalignment better. i.e. shifting something so that the E and G strings are 2mm off, and A and D strings are 1mm off?

Awesome bass dude! I have owned 7 DJs all with Aeros & never had a problem with the sound other than everyone loves the sound of 'em & can't put the bass down! :D

I had a Skyline DJ (AC) with the Lakland Hanson pups & didn't care for them nearly as much, so I swaped 'em out for a set of used Aeros I got off the classifieds & BAM, there's the sound I was lookin for!

Here's my Geddy DJ w/Aeros & even with the kooky batman angle you can see the strings are slightly off center of the poles. Sounds killer, you'll never know the difference, go for it dude!

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