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Lakland Owners Group #68

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I'm just gonna go out and say it... I love the black headstocks... especially on the HoBos and Decades where they don't match the body. (I know this is a blacker than my ex-wife's heart Black Geezer sig, but still)
 
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Wow! I just got 2009 USA JO Lakland.....YAY!

J Retro Pre and Delano PUP's


Beautiful bass. However, if you want a REAL USA JO, go back to the stock setup. Mine (above) had a J Retro installed when I bought it, but the original pickups. I brought it to Lakland and they put it all back in passive mode with the concentric controls so I could have a real JO not modded. Also torted the black PG as you can see. I guess I felt that a modded US Lakland is not really a Lakland.
 
Idk...they offer j retro as option and I like the option of passive/active. I played so many jazz basses and laklands with mods/stock setups....it was real hard to tell difference in sounds....the stock lakland JO pickups are nothing special at all really...and the last owner felt the same way cause he swapped them out too...btw it was factory plek'd and that's a big difference in playability with low action. ...if I get bored ill switch out to stock...but for 1800...I couldn't pass it up....mint condition
 
Beautiful bass. However, if you want a REAL USA JO, go back to the stock setup. Mine (above) had a J Retro installed when I bought it, but the original pickups. I brought it to Lakland and they put it all back in passive mode with the concentric controls so I could have a real JO not modded. Also torted the black PG as you can see. I guess I felt that a modded US Lakland is not really a Lakland.



For me, this is only true of the US 4-94 and 5-94. Those are the quintessential Lakland basses and if ever there was a Lakland sound, those two basses have it. Everything else that Lakland does (Decade excluded) is just a better version of another design. That being said, "If it ain't broke..."



Idk...they offer j retro as option and I like the option of passive/active. I played so many jazz basses and laklands with mods/stock setups....it was real hard to tell difference in sounds....the stock lakland JO pickups are nothing special at all really...and the last owner felt the same way cause he swapped them out too...btw it was factory plek'd and that's a big difference in playability with low action. ...if I get bored ill switch out to stock...but for 1800...I couldn't pass it up....mint condition



With the exception listed above, I'm in your camp. While I prefer passive basses, electronics don't mean as much to me with respect to the soul of a bass. I think what is supremely more important is the playability, and that's what a Lakland has in spades!
 
100 % with you brandon...there's no such thing as real j bass except for original 62 that the JO is based off of....the look.. feel ...sound...smells...haha. are what matter to me...if you changed 4-94's then yes...too weird..
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This is very true. The Genz heads are a huge part of the equation. I've played Bergs with heads from Ampeg, GK, Mark bass, Aguilar and SWR and I have to say that the Genz and Mark bass were the best for me with the Bergs. The components used in the Bergs add to the rigs end product. When it comes to the bass, the pups and pre, if any, really the are the defining factor in the overall perception to the player. But, if the feel of the bass is off and not meeting the aesthetic desires of the player, the entire setup will never be right. You will constantly be chasing the Dragon.

There are so many factors that many people never find the sound they are looking for.
Yup, yup, good thoughts. Taking it a step further: I imagine playing a Lakland -01 model with stainless steel strings through a Genz Shuttle head and one of those old Bergantino HT cabs. I've never tried this combo together myself, but my knowledge of the individual components leads me to believe it would yield a tone with a lot of zingy treble and probably not much meat in the low mids and "mid" mids.

Now imagine playing a Lakland HB with flats through a Genz Streamliner and a Berg NV215. Probably a polar opposite!:D

So, hard for me to generalize about brands and tone. Laklands are (obviously) my favorite bass maker, 'cause I love the necks. But with amps and cabs, I'm not very loyal. Love the Berg NV610, for example, but I'm not sure any of Jim's nonsealed cabs will float my boat.
 
Yup, yup, good thoughts. Taking it a step further: I imagine playing a Lakland -01 model with stainless steel strings through a Genz Shuttle head and one of those old Bergantino HT cabs. I've never tried this combo together myself, but my knowledge of the individual components leads me to believe it would yield a tone with a lot of zingy treble and probably not much meat in the low mids and "mid" mids.

I have actually been able to do this. A local Indy shop has a Berg HT322 that I tried with a Shuttle and Streamliner. I used my 55-01 with the US Bart pups and pre and a 55-01 that they had with the stock stuff. The US Barts did sound better. The stock stuff was not bad, but lots of highs. The tweeter need to come way down.
 
Yup, yup, good thoughts. Taking it a step further: I imagine playing a Lakland -01 model with stainless steel strings through a Genz Shuttle head and one of those old Bergantino HT cabs. I've never tried this combo together myself, but my knowledge of the individual components leads me to believe it would yield a tone with a lot of zingy treble and probably not much meat in the low mids and "mid" mids.



Now imagine playing a Lakland HB with flats through a Genz Streamliner and a Berg NV215. Probably a polar opposite!:D



So, hard for me to generalize about brands and tone. Laklands are (obviously) my favorite bass maker, 'cause I love the necks. But with amps and cabs, I'm not very loyal. Love the Berg NV610, for example, but I'm not sure any of Jim's nonsealed cabs will float my boat.


I gig with Berg HT115's. Lots of low mid thump with my bass and head. The HT gives you what you put into it. Zing in will equal zing out
 
The HT gives you what you put into it. Zing in will equal zing out


This is what's important to me in a cab...transparency. I hate having to EQ because of a cabinet's frequency response. I like a scooped mid sound, so when I play through a cabinet that's tuned for a mids bump it's frustrating to deal with. I know my tastes are not other people's tastes, but what I appreciate about the two Berg cabs I've played with are their transparency (to my ears anyway). It seems like transparency is a part of Jim's design equation, at least in some of his products.
 
I gig with Berg HT115's. Lots of low mid thump with my bass and head. The HT gives you what you put into it. Zing in will equal zing out
Right-o, Tom, though that DB750 you use is a low-mid machine. Transparency is in the ear of the beholder, of course.:)
 
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