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Lakland Owners Group #69

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Texan said:
And speaking of pearloid, I just switched my Duck Dunn from pearloid to tort, thanks to Johnny Alien. I love the look and the wenge/Redheart knobs look killer with the tort.
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Looks great. That was a nice looking tort guard. It was slightly aged looking.
 
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Johnny Alien said:
Parchment. With the blocks, binding and matching headstock there is already quite a deal of "bling" and pearloid just seems to kick it over the edge. No pickguard is OK but again with the matching headstock that is a whole lot of a pastel color and the pickguard helps break that up a bit.
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Going to agree with this. Also, not really a fan of the naked floating "jazz" control plate. They are meant to be paired with a guard - the angles at the top just look too "harsh" IMHO without the guard to continue the flowing lines. Without a guard, it just looks like some weird chrome knobby planarian squirming around.
 
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Black Bart said:
Going to agree with this. Also, not really a fan of the naked floating "jazz" control plate. They are meant to be paired with a guard - the angles at the top just look too "harsh" IMHO without the guard to continue the flowing lines. Without a guard, it just looks like some weird chrome knobby planarian squirming around.
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Planarian? Is Helminthology a side hobby of yours?


I confess, I looked up both of those words
 
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overbybr said:
Planarian? Is Helminthology a side hobby of yours?
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No... just one of those weird factoids that gets stuck in my head. If basses were like planaria, you could cut one in half and then both halves would self-regenerate and you would have a backup.

Texan said:
Black Bart is our resident "Sheldon Cooper", only smarter.
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Wait, was that sarcasm? I'm getting better at recognizing it :D
 
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Black Bart said:
Going to throw in with another not a fan of LH electronics. I had a custom-built 44-60 that at one point had the stock "vintage" and then a custom set of '94 style pickups in it - just sounded weak and thin as you said. And once again I will say Delano HE/M2 series work nicely with Laklands :)
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Gonna add my .02 to the LH3 debate.....I've always felt the Bart system was the weakest link on these guitars. I had a 5594 for about 12 years that had a Bart pre with SD Basslines. It sounded awesome. However, I'm sure it's slightly agressive tone wouldn't be for everyone. So I can see why Lakland felt the need to change to something different. An "in-house" product was the most likely solution.....thus the LH3. My experience with the LH3 is limited. Although I think it's decent system, I will say I prefer the Bart pre with the Basslines. However, the LH3 sounds better than the Bart/Bart system.

I've been on an all passive kick the last couple of years. I like its primitave nature and simplicity. Additionally, I think it just sounds better. If I need to adjust my EQ, I'll use my amp. I don't really feel the need to have those kind of adjustments on my guitar anymore. If I need to adjust my tone, I'll make said adjustment with my right hand technique, tone knob, amp, or combination of all three.

My latest Lakland lover is a 98' gold 4494 that just plays absolutey lovely. It's a beast. It came to me with a Bart/Bart system. I quickly yanked it out in favor for a VVT passive control setup with Aero pups. I have a coil switch installed that turns the bass into MM only or 70's jazz bass. By pulling out the Bart/Bart system I've undoubtedly lost some versatility. However, tone wise I've gained soo much more. I've also gained a level of simplicity and worry free operation not associated with active systems. Oh, my passive setup is dead quiet too. So if any of you guys are having LH3 or Bart woes, try a traditional passive VVT setup. It just plain works. Works well indeed.
 
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On Friday night, a friend of mine brought his new Fender Rumble v3 500 head to my blues band gig, so I (somewhat reluctantly) gave it a shot with the Sea Monster (into my 4 ohm Eden 2x12 cab). I've been using a TCE RH750 head for a year or so, but I really haven't been happy with the sound I can get out of it. For whatever reasons, I generally tend to not be interested in Fender equipment. Long story short (too late?) - the head absolutely killed and was possibly the best live sound I've had in a long time. 2 bass player friends in the audience as well as the house sound guy all commented on how full and deep and still clear the bass sounded.

So I was about to click "check out" for my own Rumble 500, but I feel like I have perhaps overlooked an entire area of amp flavors. I used to be an Eden guy, and had been planning to go back to an Eden head soon. But I wanted to try an Epifani or Thunderfunk head, although I have no idea what category those fall under. Maybe I'm missing out on Ampeg?! GK?!

Why am I posting this in the LOG thread? I guess I'm just thinking "out loud" and am curious if any of you dudes are familiar with other brands' heads that have comparable tone to amplify their Lakland basses!
 
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So far, i've enjoyed my 5594 and 5564 played thru the Aguilar TH350/500, Genz Benz Streamliner, Ampeg SVT 7Pro, TecAmp Black Jag 700 and Markbass TTE500/LMII/LMIII heads. These choices also reflect my preference for fat, warm sounding class D(except mentioned Markbass = class A/B) heads.
 
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The Genz Streamliner and Shuttlemax, I have both and run Bergantino AE cabs, sound fantastic with my active and passive Laklands. The Markbass LMIII was very nice as was the Aguilar TH500. Genz won out in the end due to the customer service aspect and the fact that they could duplicate the sound of the other mentioned heads.
 
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I settled on a pseudo-Ampeg head (SVP-CL with a crest power amp).

I have played though GB streamliner and Shuttlemax heads, a Fender TBP-1/Poweramp, a Berg IP cabinet, an SWR, a GK RB, as well as an 80's SVT. I liked them all reasonably well, but I live in a place that makes it difficult to go test gear without buying and selling. I plan to try a few all-tube heads in time (Fender Bassman, Mesa Prodigy, Ampeg V4BR, Ashdown CTM-100), but I plan to keep my current head as long as possible.
 
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BigDBass said:
On Friday night, a friend of mine brought his new Fender Rumble v3 500 head to my blues band gig, so I (somewhat reluctantly) gave it a shot with the Sea Monster (into my 4 ohm Eden 2x12 cab). I've been using a TCE RH750 head for a year or so, but I really haven't been happy with the sound I can get out of it. For whatever reasons, I generally tend to not be interested in Fender equipment. Long story short (too late?) - the head absolutely killed and was possibly the best live sound I've had in a long time. 2 bass player friends in the audience as well as the house sound guy all commented on how full and deep and still clear the bass sounded.

So I was about to click "check out" for my own Rumble 500, but I feel like I have perhaps overlooked an entire area of amp flavors. I used to be an Eden guy, and had been planning to go back to an Eden head soon. But I wanted to try an Epifani or Thunderfunk head, although I have no idea what category those fall under. Maybe I'm missing out on Ampeg?! GK?!

Why am I posting this in the LOG thread? I guess I'm just thinking "out loud" and am curious if any of you dudes are familiar with other brands' heads that have comparable tone to amplify their Lakland basses!
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Its OK Danno....don't have to talk Lakie 100% of the time.....good to discuss amps etc as well....[emoji6]
 
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BigDBass said:
On Friday night, a friend of mine brought his new Fender Rumble v3 500 head to my blues band gig, so I (somewhat reluctantly) gave it a shot with the Sea Monster (into my 4 ohm Eden 2x12 cab). I've been using a TCE RH750 head for a year or so, but I really haven't been happy with the sound I can get out of it. For whatever reasons, I generally tend to not be interested in Fender equipment. Long story short (too late?) - the head absolutely killed and was possibly the best live sound I've had in a long time. 2 bass player friends in the audience as well as the house sound guy all commented on how full and deep and still clear the bass sounded.

So I was about to click "check out" for my own Rumble 500, but I feel like I have perhaps overlooked an entire area of amp flavors. I used to be an Eden guy, and had been planning to go back to an Eden head soon. But I wanted to try an Epifani or Thunderfunk head, although I have no idea what category those fall under. Maybe I'm missing out on Ampeg?! GK?!

Why am I posting this in the LOG thread? I guess I'm just thinking "out loud" and am curious if any of you dudes are familiar with other brands' heads that have comparable tone to amplify their Lakland basses!
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I've tried Thunderfunk.... meh. Genz Shuttles with big Berg NV cabs... thumbs up!! GK 2001 preamp.. best SS sound ever, PERIOD!! Miss that preamp badly :-( . Ashdown Little Bastards are the bees knees, I'd tour with two of them if two rigs wasn't too much hassle to set up :-(. So... I've settled on, and am THRILLED with my new-to-me GB Streamliner 900 and 2 Aggie DB112-NTs. I can get the big cone sound of 15s (my fave) from those Aggie 12s, and overdriven tube sounds (plus tube warmth) from the Streamliner.

Some day I'll get an all tube monster like Fender or Mesa offers. But for now, I'll enjoy my 7 pound Streamliner.
 

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