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Lakland Owners Group #69

#11,581
bassdood said:
Thanks. I am not looking for the exact p-bass sound. When I move it to the neck pup, dial back the treble, play up closer to the neck, etc., I can never get a soft mellow sound. There seems to always be a bright edge to it. Any suggestions on strings that might be better? I want to not give up the ability to go bright.
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@Holdsg speaks the truth. Pure P out of a MM/J setup is not happening. Their 44-64 P-bass with EMG GZR's is off the charts good for a P sound; whether round or flat. I'll have one in the classifieds shortly.
 
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TedH said:
Turned 50 last week.... Wife heard me talking about my perfect bass being a lighter version of my 44-64, and offered that as a gift. There is now a 44-64 "old guy" on order. The Old Guy (TM), is a chambered 44-64 with Hipshot UL's, a 1.62" neck and EMG GZR's with a candy apple red solid finish.

#Boom
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CONGRATS !!!!!

That should come in at 7 pounds or lighter!!
 
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Eilif said:
My thoughts exactly. I can use my 44-94 style Carlo for nearly everything, but when I want a passive P-bass sound I pick up my much-modded MIM P-bass. It nails the sound the Carlocan't and has a great shallow neck.

The good news is that the P-bass formula is dead simple so it doesn't take much to get a great P-bass tone. I'd love to have a Lakie and I think all of us here will point you in that direction, but the truth is that a MIM P-bass and a good pickup will get you 99.9.% of the dream P-bass tone. Heck, a Squire and a good pickup will get you 95% of the way there.

Are you currently playing with a backup? A passive P-bass is great to have around on a gig for those times when the tone is required. Further, as a backup instrument, it might not be perfect for every song but there's almost nothing to go wrong with it and you'll never sound terrible on a P-bass.
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Not exactly a direct comparison but I can't get that close to a P with my 44-02.
I had tried a buddies before I bought one and thought it was reasonably close but not good enough on the gig.

Talked to Bartolini and they agreed with Better Bass Gear Online that this pup is closest to a P:

These pickups are split coil hum-cancelling designs - think of them as a "P-Bass pair in box". These are wound to yield more "growl" from the Bridge pickup. They are very similar to Bartolini’s old 94J pickups, just ever so slightly brighter at the bridge. These have stronger lows and low mids than the typical "vintage" tone.

9 Jazz L/S (Long/Short) – 9J1 L/S, 59J1 L/S, 69J1 L/S, “4 String” size

OTOH, the exact placement is not the same and, I've never heard any J pup nail the P sound

My new to e 44-01 gets much closer to a P but the jury is out until tonight's rehearsal.

When I first tried this bass the neck pup didn't sound anything like my P's and I was disappointed.
Oddly enough, running the mid control up to near max as well as a small bass bump got me MUCH closer and now the amp shares a very similar EQ to what I use with a P.

Of course, I don't get the same burpy bridge but perhaps a better choice for the music I'm working on right now.
 
#11,592
That's HAS to be an ebony board, not rosewood. I'd want to verify that before buying!

That said, I'd prefer an ebony board, on that bass. Ebony on wenge is known to sound fantastic, and is used by many builders... probably as frequently as wenge on wenge. And, the blackness of that ebony is aesthetically pleasing = it matches the pickups and knobs.
 
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JEDI BASS said:
That's HAS to be an ebony board, not rosewood. I'd want to verify that before buying!

That said, I'd prefer an ebony board, on that bass. Ebony on wenge is known to sound fantastic, and is used by many builders... probably as frequently as wenge on wenge. And, the blackness of that ebony is aesthetically pleasing = it matches the pickups and knobs.
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I wondered the same looking at the pic as closely as I could. Ebony would be my choice. I am not a rosewood board kind of guy. Have only owned one rosewood board over the years.
 
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Gecko 5 said:
Leo posted this one on Facebook
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OH MY STARS AND GARTERS!!

I was LITERALLY JUST thinking of this when I saw this post.. I love the Lakland build.. The bodies and necks just sit so so right with me.. and I was just thinking .. if only Lakland made a MM/P config.. because I have never had a P.. and i try to keep my basses practical. The "P" mistique has always eluded me because I have never played a P bass outside of a store.. and I was literally just thinking .. if only Lakland made a MM P config ...
 
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Gecko 5 said:
Leo posted this one on Facebook

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I dunno...

One thing I could never have is a two-pickup bass where one pickup is exposed polepieces and the other is enclosed. It just always looked like a mismatch to me - like a pickup died and you had to get a replacement quick and just grabbed one from the nearest music store.

I get that it's all to do with tone anyways, and that Lakland don't make an MM/P LH3 set (although maybe they could? LH3P?), but this just looks like a parts bass to me, even though I know that it's a handmade custom shop $4000 instrument. Messes with my head.

Anyhoo,

Peace,
SoundSupport
 
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soundsupport1 said:
I dunno...

One thing I could never have is a two-pickup bass where one pickup is exposed polepieces and the other is enclosed. It just always looked like a mismatch to me - like a pickup died and you had to get a replacement quick and just grabbed one from the nearest music store.

I get that it's all to do with tone anyways, and that Lakland don't make an MM/P LH3 set (although maybe they could? LH3P?), but this just looks like a parts bass to me, even though I know that it's a handmade custom shop $4000 instrument. Messes with my head.

Anyhoo,

Peace,
SoundSupport
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I agree. I can’t handle any out of balance looking P5 pickups either w/ the one side longer than the other, or one half only having poles for two strings while the other half has them for three. First thing I’d do with that bass is stick a set of Barts in it, or all EMG stuff.
 

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