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Lakland Owners Group #69

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Alright, Lakland Owners, what is your opinion about this? Sacrilege or kosher?

For Sale - Fender Reverse Jaguar Loaded Body w/ 2 Bridges (32" or 34" scale option)

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If you could fit a Lakland neck to it, it would make a killer copy of the JE Laklandbird that never happened. But I don't think fitting a Lakland neck would be cheap or easy. I assume that is a Skyline bridge?

Side question...what is the story on the classic line these days? Its a fair amount cheaper than the USA line but the only difference seems to the tuners and maybe the bridge. When it started they had very limited colors and because of the limited options and licensed hipshot stuff it was a bit cheaper. Now there are loads of color options. The ferrels are USA, the pickups and electronics are USA. I am not even 100% sure the ultralites are licensed versions anymore. Are they really selling them that much lower because they have ultralites vs vintage style tuners?
 
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Johnny Alien said:
Side question...what is the story on the classic line these days? Its a fair amount cheaper than the USA line but the only difference seems to the tuners and maybe the bridge. When it started they had very limited colors and because of the limited options and licensed hipshot stuff it was a bit cheaper. Now there are loads of color options. The ferrels are USA, the pickups and electronics are USA. I am not even 100% sure the ultralites are licensed versions anymore. Are they really selling them that much lower because they have ultralites vs vintage style tuners?
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I think the Classic line is awesome. Ultralites are still LIC. And 5 strings don't even use vintage style tuners anyway, so you'd be hard pressed to know the difference.

BTW, if you're thinking "hey I'm going to buy a Classic and install USA Hipshots", I'm sorry you can't do it. Because of the thick headstock, the regular USA line has recessed slots for the ferrules to make USA Hipshot Ultralites fit. The Classic line doesn't have it, so you'd have to have a way to drill those recessed holes to install USA Hipshots.
 
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No, I was not thinking that I was just wondering how going from an import made bridge and tuners led to that big of a discount.

Although I am curious as to what you are describing. The USA line has a thicker headstock than Skylines. I assume the classic is the same thickness. So you are saying that the standard line has to recess the nut but the classic line doesn't? I am not sure I follow.
 
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Johnny Alien said:
No, I was not thinking that I was just wondering how going from an import made bridge and tuners led to that big of a discount.

Although I am curious as to what you are describing. The USA line has a thicker headstock than Skylines. I assume the classic is the same thickness. So you are saying that the standard line has to recess the nut but the classic line doesn't? I am not sure I follow.
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Oh, I was not referring to you as in you Johnny, I'm sorry. It was just a general remark, because I learned it the hard way.

Thanks for the question, I should've used pictures to illustrate. Yes, the Classic and the "regular" USA Lakland headstocks are the same thickness.

This is the "regular" USA. Notice the ferrules flush with the face of the headstock, because there are recessed grooves for that. I always thought this was for cosmetic reasons, but no. The shaft of the USA Ultralite only supports a max headstock thickness of 17.5mm, and the Lakland USA headstock is thicker than that. Therefore they need to make those recessed ferrules to fit USA Hipshots.

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Now the USA Classic. Notice the ferrules are just like the Skylines, sitting on top of the headstock plane.

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Also worth noticing that the USAs have 3/8" shafts while the Classics have 1/2" shafts.

Hope that makes it clear.
 
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Mr Matt said:
I dig it, needs a matte black pickguard tho, not sure why he chose a Lakland bridge. Just about any bridge would do, it's about bridge placement & the neck to get it from 32-34" scale. Maybe the screw holes lined up, hard to say, looks cool tho! New LOG bass??
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Having gigged this bass for a number of years, I can tell you straight up that you can forget about playing anything past the 12th fret. And the pickups were not very good. It came with a Badass style bridge so not sure why or where the Lakland bridge came from other than the large base plate would possibly cover the screw holes between 32"-34" scales?

Aside from it's shortcomings in ergonomics, it looked absolutely killer (and that was the most important thing for playing bars!).

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Once long ago, I owned a non reverse Gibson Thunderbird, frankly it was a pretty unruly design that had significant neck dive and didn't balance well on the shoulders. I think
that's precisely why John Entwhistle put Fender necks on his Thunderbirds. The reverse body neck throughs were IME lovely to look at and challenging to play. Just my take.
 
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Johnny Alien said:
I can't say for 100% sure BUT if the pickguard on this is original then this is a 2002 Duck Dunn model. The very first Skyline DD and it had a very small production run. Wicked good price if that is true.

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Oh, this got my interest. What was the nut size on the original Duck Dunn basses? I know the candy apple red ones are 1.5"
 
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Thom Fioriglio said:
Oh, this got my interest. What was the nut size on the original Duck Dunn basses? I know the candy apple red ones are 1.5"
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The original version was a standard Glaub model with the gold guard. The nut width is 1.75 (but I always found the Skyline nut width to be a little smaller like 1.7")

I think there was 20 or less of these made. Note that this COULD be just a regular Glaub or 44-64 with a swapped guard BUT if the serial number confirms it to be 2002 (or maybe 2003 I forget what exact year it came out) then it would be a Dunn SE.
 
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