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Lead guitar does not like my tee shirt design.
- Thread starter njones89
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Forget the t-shirt, this is the real issue. Would I quit because someone didn't like my t-shirt design? No. Would I quit because I was treated with lack of respect? Absolutely. I have a zero tolerance rule about that. One strike and you're out.
I don't care if you are the star of the show, or the guy getting the roadies' coffee; everyone should be treated with respect. If you let someone treat you disrespectfully, it's as much your fault for allowing it as their fault for doing it.
Looks fine to me, I'd buy one. As a side note, from my personal experience, most lead guitarists don't possess "Taste", just watch one take a five minute solo and call it "Inspired".
A LG being a douche, somewhat par for the course in a rock band.
I agree with what Joe said: If this band is your only musical outlet, time to find a second one. Maybe try something different, too. I probably sound like a broken record (because I say this often), but I had more or less quit music until I tried playing in non-guitar-centric bands. Now I simply won't join a project that has more than one guitar player. The volume wars, the drama, the "squareness" (or non-grooviness) that often comes with it, not worth it for me. I have way more fun supporting solists playing keys or horns.
Sorry for the digression. Back on topic:
I agree with what Joe said: If this band is your only musical outlet, time to find a second one. Maybe try something different, too. I probably sound like a broken record (because I say this often), but I had more or less quit music until I tried playing in non-guitar-centric bands. Now I simply won't join a project that has more than one guitar player. The volume wars, the drama, the "squareness" (or non-grooviness) that often comes with it, not worth it for me. I have way more fun supporting solists playing keys or horns.
Sorry for the digression. Back on topic:
- Design looks cool. I buy white Ts on occasion, but it could indeed be a tougher sell. I agree that he/they should have spoken up sooner, though.
- Not answering your phone when the BL called was a bit of a faux pas.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Really? Boo-hoo. Welcome to the life of an artist. I also do graphics, and in that world it's pretty brutal on a personal level if you allow it to be. In art school they have regular "crits" - critiques - that are designed to both give the artists input on his work and toughen him up.
While I agree the guitarist should have voiced his complaints earlier, if you want to continue doing art/graphics, grow some thick skin, get a pair, or stop doing it completely. Not kidding.
Further, what happens when people say your band "blows," your bass playing "sucks," and other worse things? It's the way it is and you'd better get used to it or go back to college and cower in a "safe space."
Good luck.
BS. I'd never quit over this. I'd hand it back harder than he gave it, and tell him why. I've had it happen to me on a couple of occasions, I just locked it away, found a way to work with said douche until they themselves quit.
You're right that disrespect reaps the same, and dickhead needs to know that. But me run away from a project to which I've sweated blood? Never.
You dudes need to be stronger.
Strong has nothing to do with it. It's about being smart and picking your fights. Life isn't a reality show where the loudest richardcranium wins. If he doesn't have the support of the rest of the band, it doesn't matter how much he gets in the guitarist's face. You can't MAKE someone respect you.
The BL reaches out and you don't return his call. Sounds like you don't want a resolution? Yeah, you're busy and in a bad mood, but you need to be a little more grown up about this.
Nice design. I like simple logos on shirts v. complex pictures. Black on white is probably a poor choice for all the reasons already mentioned. I never buy white because the first time I eat or drink something, it'll be shot. Coffee-colored shirts are great for me.
Nice design. I like simple logos on shirts v. complex pictures. Black on white is probably a poor choice for all the reasons already mentioned. I never buy white because the first time I eat or drink something, it'll be shot. Coffee-colored shirts are great for me.
Ugh, I hate when people don't give feedback until it's basically too late, and then cause problems if you don't try to accommodate their feedback at that point. Especially if you're the one who took the initiative and time to do something. I've dealt with that in bands before and it's really frustrating.
Personally, I think your design looks great, and it would look good black on white. But that's not really the issue here, is it? The issue is this guitar player not giving his input early enough and then being disrespectful to you about it afterwards. I'd say you're right to be upset.
Personally, I think your design looks great, and it would look good black on white. But that's not really the issue here, is it? The issue is this guitar player not giving his input early enough and then being disrespectful to you about it afterwards. I'd say you're right to be upset.
That is a perfectly fine design and shirt. Don’t sweat the guitarist. Some people just like to mess with others and do stuff like wait till the last minute to criticize something. He probably just doesn’t like you, it happens. He probably doesn’t like that you’re the bassist and don’t have to “work as hard as him”.
If someone isn't willing to put the work a certain task requieres, nor is able to come up with a better alternative to what's on the table the best thing he/she can do is STFU. The least thing you want to do is boicot the work of those who decided to invest the time/effort. If you're lazy you also tacitly surrender your right to veto (unspoken rule amongst people with minimal common sense).
Just a word of advice from someone who's been through this multiple times: don't invest too much in t-shirts unless you plan to tour relentlessly. They're generally a tough sell for local bands, and you end up with a box collecting dust.
Are you making money, getting better gigs, getting tighter as a band (music-wise)? If so, don't let the LG aloofness bother you.
Now if you're losing money, and the gigs are difficult to come by and not increasing getting good ones, and the sound of the band seems stagnant, then that's the kind of stuff you worry about.
Also, nobody really buys white t-shirts anymore. Take the suggestions of using gray as a base color if you want the logo to be in black.
Now if you're losing money, and the gigs are difficult to come by and not increasing getting good ones, and the sound of the band seems stagnant, then that's the kind of stuff you worry about.
Also, nobody really buys white t-shirts anymore. Take the suggestions of using gray as a base color if you want the logo to be in black.
I'd say black T, gray anvil, the name in red hot iron color, maybe with a gradient, yellow to red or something. No thanks.
What we do at work is say, "If you don't provide feedback by XXXX date, we will assume concurrence." If someone has suggestions after that date we just say, "Thanks, but the date for feedback has passed, we can consider those changes for the next time."
However, it sounds like this guitarist is going to find something to be unpleasant about.
Cool design. I'd go with white on a black tee and/or black on a graphite or grey tee. Honestly, white tees aren't big sellers these days. Guaranteed, the guitar player is going to want one. Make him pay full price...
I'm a graphic artist for a living and have people critiquing my work all the time. You need a thick skin in the creative world as some of the people will like some of your work some of the time, but not all people will like all your work all of the time.
I'm a graphic artist for a living and have people critiquing my work all the time. You need a thick skin in the creative world as some of the people will like some of your work some of the time, but not all people will like all your work all of the time.
