Let's See some Double P Basses

[urkel3000]

I've never understood why people think making the inactive portion of the string longer affects the string tension. It does not. If it did, the pitch would change.

Physics, people!

You can swap between through-body and top load strings, and feel the difference, you can feel the difference with a reverse inline headstock too, I did not feel the need to refer to a physics textbook

 

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You can swap between through-body and top load strings, and feel the difference, you can feel the difference with a reverse inline headstock too, I did not feel the need to refer to a physics textbook

There may be a difference, but it's not increased tension.

 

[atquinn]

There may be a difference, but it's not increased tension.

Its the same reason headless guitars feel stiffer than guitars with traditional headstocks. The tension of the string is different, but the amount of force it takes to bend a note will feel different between the two due to the string length behind the nut. When you are playing a guitar normally, you aren't "bending" exactly, but if you consider that pushing the string down to the fret is like a "micro bend", then you might be able to feel a difference depending on your setup and how sensitive you are to stuff like that.

With all that said, Fodera's ad copy is of course ridiculous. And also, I think the increase of string length behind the headstock would probably make it feel slinkier? This would be easy to test out with the E string on one of my Precisions, but I don't really care either way, so...

Anyway, here's my double p bass!

 

[Chris Hass]

You can swap between through-body and top load strings, and feel the difference, you can feel the difference with a reverse inline headstock too, I did not feel the need to refer to a physics textbook

It absolutely has some effect of stiffness/the amount it vibrates.. but tension is only calculated by the pitch the string is tuned to, the vibrating length, and the mass of the string.

I saw this post some time ago and it seemed like a cool demonstration of the stiffness feel.

 

[mikewalker]

What a different break-angle at the nut or saddle does is change the string's perceived "Compliance" ( as noted above - it has zero effect on "string tension"...)

 

[AngelCrusher]

Ressurecting this one. Curious how a double P on the neck pickup sounds compared to a regular Pbass? I ask because the pickups are reversed on a lot of the doubles.

 

[John D Harris]

Ressurecting this one. Curious how a double P on the neck pickup sounds compared to a regular Pbass? I ask because the pickups are reversed on a lot of the doubles.

If they are the same model pickups, but just "reversed", the lower frequency strings will sound a tad bit less fat and the higher frequency strings will sound a tad bit more fat.

 

[BassBeginer64]

Mine was a beer bug build, I copied Leland Sklar's build, with upgrades Painted and went with roasted maple fender neck, used EMG's at first but just did not care for the tone, so I ended up with fender 62 customs in the neck, and 63's in the bridge with a Audere 2 band pre-amp.
sounded graet, but it was too unbalanced, in output I ended up with both pickups using 63''s - tone is now balanced with the blend centered, but if turn the blend towards the neck or bridge the tone gets wonky seems just off to my ear, centered sounds like P bass on steroids , the Audere preamp is just a small signal boost - not in your face boost like nordstrand, Agular, bartalini

 

[poochiecheeks]

double p bass? YES

 

[LowWay]

It doesn’t look like it, but these turner multicoils have rotary switches that allow each pickup to be a p or reverse p. Does that count?

 

[John D Harris]

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It doesn’t look like it, but these turner multicoils have rotary switches that allow each pickup to be a p or reverse p. Does that count?

Very cool!

I wish Delano would have an option like this on their MC5 FE/M2 pickups - they are quad-coils so it would be possible for them to make that wiring available.

 

[EASonBass]

 

[Yodhan]

Working on this Jackson bass and looking to add a second P pickup. Leaning towards a reverse P for the bridge position. I am planning on putting a LHZ Hazlab preamp in it for a Spector-esque sound, but I know it won’t be dead on because of the double P.

I am thinking about going with double Model P pickups, but I might got with double EMG Geezers.

 

[Malak the Mad]

Ever since I had to sell off my Fender Blacktop Jazz body, I've had the growing urge to mod another Double-P bass. I've been kicking around a pair of ideas;

1. Getting an inexpensive Jazz bass and routing it out into said configuration.
2. Expanding the oddly shaped pickup routes on one of my Fender Dimension bodies.

Specifically, I would have them routed to carry a pair of Stingray-style humbuckers, but I'm very intrigued by Reverend's Split-Brick pickups. They sound really nice AND I'd have the option of installing more straightforward 'buckers should I ever feel the urge.

 

[Yodhan]

Ever since I had to sell off my Fender Blacktop Jazz body, I've had the growing urge to mod another Double-P bass. I've been kicking around a pair of ideas;

1. Getting an inexpensive Jazz bass and routing it out into said configuration.
2. Expanding the oddly shaped pickup routes on one of my Fender Dimension bodies.

Specifically, I would have them routed to carry a pair of Stingray-style humbuckers, but I'm very intrigued by Reverend's Split-Brick pickups. They sound really nice AND I'd have the option of installing more straightforward 'buckers should I ever feel the urge.

My only concern with routing the Jazz bass boy would be that you would have the extra space routed out from the bridge J pickup. Unless you filled it with wood, then routed it.

I am intrigued by those Reverend Pickups. Pretty cool looking.

 

[Yodhan]

Finished the Jackson JS1M project. Just used some no name Alnico bass pickups I had from some previous projects. They sound good enough that I might just keep them. Currently the bass is wired with a master volume and a blend knob. I am debating on getting a LHZ HazLab clone, but not entirely set on it. I am also not entirely set on color. The green is okay, but it’s a bit much. Might repaint it to something different.

 

[Malak the Mad]

My only concern with routing the Jazz bass boy would be that you would have the extra space routed out from the bridge J pickup. Unless you filled it with wood, then routed it.

I am intrigued by those Reverend Pickups. Pretty cool looking.

There is a little left, but not enough to make me sweat over it. If this J/J to J/MM conversion I did is any indication, what shows is minimal and, if I felt like spending a little more, I could easily get humbucker "rings" to cover up what little is left.

Mine…

…not mine, but could be should the urge ever strike.

The same thing goes for the Fender Dimension. It won't be perfect, but once it's done, I'll see if the rings will be necessary.

 

[Bass Ape]

Double reverse P, 88’ Fbass BN5

 

[rooster]

The final modification to my Fatfish 32...Double P...2 Dimarzio Relentless middle...DP296..2 seperate volumes 500k..wired directly to output jack.No tone knob...Strung with Chromes..ECB82's

 

[Green Knight]

stop me if you've heard this one before