Line 6 HX Effects

[Seanbassplayer]

Yes sir. I'm hoping to be able to have just the HX and my wireless on my board eventually. I just need to time to be able to tweak all of it.

I started setting up presets for my different basses that I typically use on gigs.



Yep, each FX loop counts as a block.
I believe anything that you assign to a foot switch would count, which is basically everything.

Ok cool thanks.. So how about this, if I split the signal internally for a preset can I use 9 blocks on each path or to be able to do this could I split the signal before going into HX and go into both inputs of HX creating 2 separate paths internally and have 9 blocks on each path?

 

[gregmon79]

Ok cool thanks.. So how about this, if I split the signal internally for a preset can I use 9 blocks on each path or to be able to do this could I split the signal before going into HX and go into both inputs of HX creating 2 separate paths internally and have 9 blocks on each path?

Whoa

Haha

 

[Dave W]

Ok cool thanks.. So how about this, if I split the signal internally for a preset can I use 9 blocks on each path or to be able to do this could I split the signal before going into HX and go into both inputs of HX creating 2 separate paths internally and have 9 blocks on each path?

I'm not sure but I would think you can only have 9 blocks total at one time.

 

[gregmon79]

I'm not sure but I would think you can only have 9 blocks total at one time.

Yeah. Only 9 blocks per patch.

 

[Seanbassplayer]

1. Yes. You can actually put a ton of effects on one switch. Well, not a ton. I think the most I’ve put on one was like 5. And you can toggle through them all however if you hit that switch they all engage at once. I haven’t figured a way to engage one or the other yet. I’m not sure there is a way. So it’s either all or nothing if you do it this way. To my knowledge so far anyway.

2. Yes, the send and return take a block each. Anything you put in a patch is a block. IR, anything. This is why I ended up deciding to keep all my dirt on board for now so I didn’t “waste” any blocks in a patch.

3. I’m not sure. I haven’t tried that yet. I think you can though. May need someone else to chime in here.

Cool thanks man didn't know up to at least 5 possibly more can be on one footswitch. That changes my mental vision of how I could potentially set it up. Could you save block space by doing it this way? Also allot of my effects are always on so I'm guessing I'll have limited block space but thinking I could just create a second cloned preset with say different flavour of drive or this one has chorus and that one has delay etc.

 

[Seanbassplayer]

Whoa

Haha

Sorry man sometimes translating thoughts to text comes out tangled lol I think you get where I'm coming from but likely only 9 blocks period is my guess but thought I'd try throw it out there haha

 

[Seanbassplayer]

Yeah. Only 9 blocks per patch.

Ok cool got it!

 

[Seanbassplayer]

I'm not sure but I would think you can only have 9 blocks total at one time.

Awesome thanks!

 

[gregmon79]

Cool thanks man didn't know up to at least 5 possibly more can be on one footswitch. That changes my mental vision of how I could potentially set it up. Could you save block space by doing it this way? Also allot of my effects are always on so I'm guessing I'll have limited block space but thinking I could just create a second cloned preset with say different flavour of drive or this one has chorus and that one has delay etc.

Not really. You can only get 9 blocks per preset. So you could have a lot on one switch (I just got 7 onto one switch) and two more on one more switch or two more switches. Or no switches. It’s actually possible to assign blocks to nothing. So the only way you’d see it is in signal flow. But long story short (too late), you can still only get 9 blocks per preset.

Hopefully you can see it, I’ve got 7 on one (and you can scroll through all 7 by tapping/touching the switch to edit them or see which is what) and the looper on another. Couldn’t fit anymore into fs 1. And I can only fit one more block on this preset/signal flow before it’s filled up completely.

 

[Seanbassplayer]

Not really. You can only get 9 blocks per preset. So you could have a lot on one switch (I just got 7 onto one switch) and two more on one more switch or two more switches. Or no switches. It’s actually possible to assign blocks to nothing. So the only way you’d see it is in signal flow. But long story short (too late), you can still only get 9 blocks per preset.
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Hopefully you can see it, I’ve got 7 on one (and you can scroll through all 7 by tapping/touching the switch to edit them or see which is what) and the looper on another. Couldn’t fit anymore into fs 1. And I can only fit one more block on this preset/signal flow before it’s filled up completely.

Aww ok cool I see how it works thanks for the details and pic! I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to set it up the way I like no problem. I am curious, did you figure out why you were getting that digital tone from drive pedal in loop? I know you asked the line 6 rep user but haven’t seen any replies yet. Cheers!

 

[fivestringgecko]

1. Yes. You can actually put a ton of effects on one switch. Well, not a ton. I think the most I’ve put on one was like 5. And you can toggle through them all however if you hit that switch they all engage at once. I haven’t figured a way to engage one or the other yet. I’m not sure there is a way. So it’s either all or nothing if you do it this way. To my knowledge so far anyway.

2. Yes, the send and return take a block each. Anything you put in a patch is a block. IR, anything. This is why I ended up deciding to keep all my dirt on board for now so I didn’t “waste” any blocks in a patch.

3. I’m not sure. I haven’t tried that yet. I think you can though. May need someone else to chime in here.

1. I've assigned all the effects in one chain to one switch (EDIT: my main patch currently has 7 blocks). If it's a block, you can assign it to one switch. But Gregmon is correct... you can touch the switch to scroll through the effects that are assigned to the switch (and then touch & hold to edit just that effect), but pressing the switch turns on/off all the effects assigned to that switch at once.

2. Just to clarify the send/return thing: you can assign a block to be a send, a return, or one block for BOTH send & return. Don't need to use two blocks for send and return unless you're doing creative things with them. Yesterday morning, I used a return block as an AUX IN and ran .mp3 and youtube audio in from my phone. Then I used a Send block as a Headphone out just to see if I could do it. SPOILER: it's not the same as a true dedicated headphone out, but it does work.

You can also combine the send/return blocks with parallel paths to do other things as well. Want to send a pre-EQ signal to the board, and then a post-EQ signal to your amp? Put a Path B split with a Send only block before your EQ block(s). Any effects before the split will go to both, and anything after the split will go to Path A (aka your amp).

3. You could put a volume pedal in a send / return loop, but there's also a dedicated volume block. The volume pedal would go in one of the expression pedal inputs. That way you can still have both effects loops free for any outboard pedals you want to use.

Re: Assigning blocks to NO switch
I'm doing this in my main patch with a comp, and an Obsidian a preamp (distortion off, at the end of my signal chain). Bith are always on, so I can have them in my chain but free up switches for other things.

5sg.

 

[SirMoak]

Aww ok cool I see how it works thanks for the details and pic! I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to set it up the way I like no problem. I am curious, did you figure out why you were getting that digital tone from drive pedal in loop? I know you asked the line 6 rep user but haven’t seen any replies yet. Cheers!

Yeah, I would be interested in that as well. I'm planning to use my Le Bass preamp with a 4 cable method in one of the effect loops and the output of the HX, so the quality of the effect loop is critical.

 

[Seanbassplayer]

1. I've assigned all the effects in one chain to a switch. If it's a block, you can assign it to one switch. But Gregmon is correct... you can touch the switch to scroll through the effects that are assigned to the switch (and then press & hold to edit just that effect), but pressing the switch turns on/off all the effects assigned to that switch at once.

2. Just to clarify the send/return thing: you can assign a block to be a send, a return, or one block for BOTH send & return. Don't need to use two blocks for send and return unless you're doing creative things with them. Yesterday morning, I used a return block as an AUX IN and ran .mp3 and youtube audio in from my phone. Then I used a Send block as a Headphone out just to see if I could do it. SPOILER: it's not the same as a true dedicated headphone out, but it does work.

3. You could put a volume pedal in a send / return loop, but there's also a dedicated volume block. The volume pedal would go in one of the expression pedal inputs. That way you can still have both effects loops free for any outboard pedals you want to use.

Re: Assigning blocks to NO switch
I'm doing this in my main patch with a comp, and an Obsidian a preamp (distortion off, at the end of my signal chain). Bith are always on, so I can have them in my chain but free up switches for other things.

5sg.

More acquired knowledge thank you! So the volume blocks if connected to expression would control volume for path A and if a volume block is on path B I would need another expression pedal so 2 in total to control each volume block am I correct? Also using this setup I cannot control anything else in the patch because both expressions are already being used for volume blocks which I’m cool with but was hoping to utilize the expression pedals for other controls as I’m looking for the best way to have a kill switch on each A/B path without using expression inputs to control volume. Thanks

 

[fivestringgecko]

@Seanbassplayer

You could assign both expression inputs to be volume blocks, but you'd only need to do that if you want individual volume control for separate paths. It would just depend on where you program the volume block in relation to the path splits.

Put the volume block at the beginning of the chain (or very end), and one volume pedal would mute everything. This would allow you to still use the second Expression input as a parameter controller.

Put a volume block in the middle of a split path, and it would mute just what's on that split path. In this shot, the signal is split right at the beginning, so the volume block would control/mute just the two octaver blocks before it in path A. Path B would still process normall and merge back into Path A after my first Obsidian block.

If you want to have independant volume/mute control of each path separately, THAT's when you'd need two volume controls. Seen here, each separate path has a volume control, so Path A and Path B each have their own volume/mute control, but that does require the use of both expressions as volume pedals, and two volume blocks. You would also have to mute both paths to mute the entire signal.

Hope that helps explain what you're trying to do...?

5sg.

 

[Seanbassplayer]

@Seanbassplayer

You could assign both expression inputs to be volume blocks, but you'd only need to do that if you want individual volume control for separate paths. It would just depend on where you program the volume block in relation to the path splits.

Put the volume block at the beginning of the chain (or very end), and one volume pedal would mute everything. This would allow you to still use the second Expression input as a parameter controller.

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Put a volume block in the middle of a split path, and it would mute just what's on that split path. In this shot, the signal is split right at the beginning, so the volume block would control/mute just the two octaver blocks before it in path A. Path B would still process normall and merge back into Path A after my first Obsidian block.

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If you want to have independant volume/mute control of each path separately, THAT's when you'd need two volume controls. Seen here, each separate path has a volume control, so Path A and Path B each have their own volume/mute control, but that does require the use of both expressions as volume pedals, and two volume blocks. You would also have to mute both paths to mute the entire signal.

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Hope that helps explain what you're trying to do...?

5sg.

Thanks for the info!Yes I want independent volume/ mute control of each path separately so to do that would require using up 2 of the 9 blocks and require 2 expression pedals connected to HX. Alternatively could I split the signal with my existing ehx switchblade+ and have each of my existing volume pedals inline to the L/R inputs creating 2 parallel paths which doing this way would free up 2 blocks and both expression inputs?

 

[gregmon79]

Aww ok cool I see how it works thanks for the details and pic! I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to set it up the way I like no problem. I am curious, did you figure out why you were getting that digital tone from drive pedal in loop? I know you asked the line 6 rep user but haven’t seen any replies yet. Cheers!

No I haven’t gotten any feedback on that. I think it’s most likely because of how I’m running or setting something. I noticed it when I started messing with the crossover and I know crossovers can make your signal sound weird if you don’t know what you’re doing. Which I kinda don’t

 

[J Posega]

No I haven’t gotten any feedback on that. I think it’s most likely because of how I’m running or setting something. I noticed it when I started messing with the crossover and I know crossovers can make your signal sound weird if you don’t know what you’re doing. Which I kinda don’t

Crossovers don't always work smoothly. If you're trying to do something like an effected top end and clean bottom, I'd much sooner put a high-pass filter on the top-end chain and a low-pass filter on the bottom-end chain. Set the HPF and LPF so there are the same spot with a steep roll-off on either side to reduce the possibility of getting any phase issues.

 

[gregmon79]

Crossovers don't always work smoothly. If you're trying to do something like an effected top end and clean bottom, I'd much sooner put a high-pass filter on the top-end chain and a low-pass filter on the bottom-end chain. Set the HPF and LPF so there are the same spot with a steep roll-off on either side to reduce the possibility of getting any phase issues.

Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s me and not the HX. I haven’t gotten any weirdness or not good sounds out of the HX unless I’ve done something with it. And when you throw something like on boards like ours, and start messing with filtering, paralllel paths, crossovers, it can get weird really quick. That’s been my exp anyway. But I’ll keep trying. Because the HX rules and offers a lot options. Gonna try and utilize it to its fullest.

 

[Matt Dean]

Is the looper on the HX midi synch able?

 

[gregmon79]

Is the looper on the HX midi synch able?

Idk. I’m pretty sure you can though.