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Looking good TB.

If it works for you, great. I can't always find kart week's "must have new releases" on craigslist. And even better I never have to hide a knife in my underwear just in case our meeting at the Walmart parking lot goes south.

It's even cooler when said in a think Harry Potter accent.

We don't carry knives down here...we carry guns. Much more effective. :)


Really though, musicians here generally don't try to screw each other over. A lot of times we meet at each others homes. Out of many dozens of deals, I've only had one time where I think a guy might've been trying to pass off a broken amp, but a couple minutes with a solder iron fixed it, no parts needed.
 
Check out Austin craigslist sometime. I've been able to buy or sell anything I've ever needed to right here in town. No need for memberships or shipping or paypal or such things. ;)

Thats cool if your local Craigslist works for you. I've used my local Craigslist too but not nearly to the same success rate I have selling here. I find having a dedicated audience of thousands of bass players works well when trying to sell my bass-specific gear. ;)
 
Thats cool if your local Craigslist works for you. I've used my local Craigslist too but not nearly to the same success rate I have selling here. I find having a dedicated audience of thousands of bass players works well when trying to sell my bass-specific gear. ;)

I get it. I understand people like it. I'm just not a buyer/seller just for the sake of it, or looking to flip/profit. I buy if there's something I'm wanting and sell if it's something I don't need anymore.

Also, a fairly small portion of it is bass specific. I also have PA system scalable from small to somewhat largish, guitar gear, drumkit + accessories, mics, cabling, etc. Basically enough stuff to outfit a whole band and put on a gig by myself. Plus other odds and ends, parts, etc. for speaker design/building of various types, not just bass stuff.

Not going to find all that on TB.
 
First, it's vBulletin, not Vbulletin.

Second, you might be surprised to learn that 3 of the gentlemen responsible for the code and financial workings that went into making vB 3.6 (which is what TalkBass had been using) are the same 3 gentlemen that are responsible for the software TalkBass is running now (XenForo).

Third, vB, at least the vB you love so much (the 3 series and to a lesser extent, the 4 series) is not long for this world. The internet moves on. PHP and MySQL, etc. advance in functionality and requirements. HTML, et al move ahead with changes that must be addressed by the forum script. Unfortunately, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. (the subsidiary of Internet Brands which purchased vBulletin from Jelsoft in July of 2007) has ceased work on the version 3 and version 4 series of vBulletin (some one from vB will undoubtedly come here and say that is not accurate, so let me say, they probably will address any critical bugs that may arise, but for all intents and purposes, anything below version 5 of vB (as of this writing) is EOL--end of life).
As a result, people responsible for internet forums are moving away from vB. If not to XenForo then to Invision Power Board (IPB) or something else. As stated above, they have to or face the reality of altering the existing code themselves to stay abreast of all of the changes. That becomes a VERY expensive proposition (both time and money) when you're looking at a large system like TalkBass.

Fourth, change can be difficult. I too love vBulletin. I and many more like me have spent more than a decade working with the code and enjoying what became really the best forum script in the world. Unfortunately, that time is over. The company vB forums are a ghost town compared to what they once were. It's really been hard for many people. Lots of folks made their living from supporting vBulletin administrators (theme designers, add-on programmers, system optimization help, SEO, etc.). Not much left in those arenas either. Some have hung on longer than others, but as Paul stated in one of his messages about the TalkBass change, it's been 2-years in the making for his decision.

Finally, I would encourage you to give it a chance. As I said, change can difficult, but it can lead to growth! :thumbsup:

Hope that helps...
Allen


While I agree a move away from vBulletin was necessary on the backend, that carries with it no necessity for change on the front end.

They could have made XenForo have the same "look" and "feel" to a large extent as the previous setup - but, for some reason, they chose not to.
 
While I agree a move away from vBulletin was necessary on the backend, that carries with it no necessity for change on the front end.

They could have made XenForo have the same "look" and "feel" to a large extent as the previous setup - but, for some reason, they chose not to.
Basically what I've been trying to say, rather unsuccessfully. (Insert stupid cartoon emoticon here ---> :) ).
 
Not going to find all that on TB.

Have you looked at the classifieds here? You might be surprised what you can find. But I get it, you've had nothing but great Craigslist experiences so you don't have any need to change what works for you. I've had far more luck buying, selling and especially trading gear here but thats me.
 
Have you looked at the classifieds here? You might be surprised what you can find. But I get it, you've had nothing but great Craigslist experiences so you don't have any need to change what works for you. I've had far more luck buying, selling and especially trading gear here but thats me.

I also understand most places don't have a local used market like this one.

Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I'd rather meet you in person with cash than turn my money into digital blips, then wait for the brown truck, but that's just me. :D
 
While I agree a move away from vBulletin was necessary on the backend, that carries with it no necessity for change on the front end.
They could have made XenForo have the same "look" and "feel" to a large extent as the previous setup - but, for some reason, they chose not to.
Well.. it's a bit more complicated than that. I've left a bit of the history of the situation in another post, let me see if I can find it... yes, here it is: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/looking-good-tb.1071064/page-16#post-15812183
Same thread, you may have missed it.
Anyway, I'll add that even the name (XenForo) is significant in this rather large and complicated web of forum scripts. Just take my word for it that it is what it is for very good reasons.
Actually, you don't have to take my word for it. There is enough info regarding vBulletin vs. Xenforo on the internet that anyone could get up to speed if they have the time or desire to know (or know most of it).
 
While I agree a move away from vBulletin was necessary on the backend, that carries with it no necessity for change on the front end.

They could have made XenForo have the same "look" and "feel" to a large extent as the previous setup - but, for some reason, they chose not to.
Yes it does. Change in software by a different company = change in the front end. But they're working on making the current software more customizable, as someone previously posted.
 
Well.. it's a bit more complicated than that. I've left a bit of the history of the situation in another post, let me see if I can find it... yes, here it is: http://www.talkbass.com/threads/looking-good-tb.1071064/page-16#post-15812183
Same thread, you may have missed it.
Anyway, I'll add that even the name (XenForo) is significant in this rather large and complicated web of forum scripts. Just take my word for it that it is what it is for very good reasons.
Actually, you don't have to take my word for it. There is enough info regarding vBulletin vs. Xenforo on the internet that anyone could get up to speed if they have the time or desire to know (or know most of it).

I well understand the convoluted history between vBulletin and XenForo. I understand that vBulletin hasn't been supported for quite a while.

I also understand that unless your forum software is ridiculously uncustomizable - you can emulate the previous appearance and functionality to a large degree.

Will it be an exact match? No. Can you get the same look (general layout, color scheme, etc.) and feel (user accessible functionality) - you bet.

I've done it with a number of database engines, pieces of software written in various "visual" languages, and even a couple different pieces of forum software (Spitfire!, vBulletin, FUDForum)... and I'm not a very good programmer.

Just take my word (and my degree in Computer Engineering) for it that this is readily achievable. Actually, you don't have to take my word for it. There is enough info out there on the web on forum programming that anyone could get up to speed if they have the time or desire to know (or know most of it).
 
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Will it be an exact match? No. Can you get the same look (general layout, color scheme, etc.) and feel (user accessible functionality) - you bet.
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You can't please everyone - I doubt everyone even agrees the old site was better and worth emulating. In fact a lot will already have forgotten what it looked like, I don't remember and I used it for quite a few years.
 
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