I tried removing the head last night and still got a bit of buzz. That was all I had time to test, then it was time for the 2-year-old to go to sleep. I'll try to test it further in the next couple days.
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Low Down Sound 15/6.5 Cab
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Yea, it really only takes around 1/4 to 1/8th of an inch
For like 99% of the drivers on the market, room for 10mm of excursion is plenty I guess
Give it a year and I'll have a 15/6/1 and a poweramp setup 
Then I plan on not having to deal with gear again, since my GB 3.0 combo could handle smaller gigs. I'm already getting kinda sick of hauling two 40lb 1x12 cabs, mostly due to my huge set of stairs....
So if I got this [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
and a 15/6/1
that could handle some pretty huge gigs yeah??
Need some money man
Then I plan on not having to deal with gear again, since my GB 3.0 combo could handle smaller gigs. I'm already getting kinda sick of hauling two 40lb 1x12 cabs, mostly due to my huge set of stairs.... So if I got this [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
and a 15/6/1
that could handle some pretty huge gigs yeah??
Need some money man
If I'm reading right, that QSC is not bridgeable, so, unless you have two of those cabs, you would be getting 500 watts into the 15/6/1 ( assuming it's an 8 ohm load ). Plus, you need a preamp to power the qsc. With the Genz Benz, you would be getting the same thing in a 4 lb rig.
Judging from reports this cab is very close to what I'm looking for, but I'm concerned by Chef's reports of how ill-suited to DB it is.
I'm wondering if the cab that Ryan Mohr had built--3015 in a smaller enclosure--would be more appropriate for DB. Like Ryan, I don't really need anything over 4K, and small size/light weight is very desirable to me (two hip replacements).
This little cab would still have some serious bottom, right? Roughly how many -db at 40hz would you guess?
I'm wondering if the cab that Ryan Mohr had built--3015 in a smaller enclosure--would be more appropriate for DB. Like Ryan, I don't really need anything over 4K, and small size/light weight is very desirable to me (two hip replacements).
This little cab would still have some serious bottom, right? Roughly how many -db at 40hz would you guess?
Chef
In Memoriam
If you don't need a horn, you'd likely be ok with either.
If you do need a horn, a different incarnation of a 15/6 isn't going to be an improvement, IMO.
I don't care for a cab without a horn for db-I feel you just don't get finger/string noise and "air," without one.
Additionally, I didn't care for the 18Sound mid driver with DB.
I do have an LDS 2x8+5 that I like well enough for DB, but my fave is the LDS 2x8+horn.
If you do need a horn, a different incarnation of a 15/6 isn't going to be an improvement, IMO.
I don't care for a cab without a horn for db-I feel you just don't get finger/string noise and "air," without one.
Additionally, I didn't care for the 18Sound mid driver with DB.
I do have an LDS 2x8+5 that I like well enough for DB, but my fave is the LDS 2x8+horn.
Thanks for the reply Chef. I'm more concerned by your earlier comments regarding low-end feedback and honky midrange. Do you think the smaller enclosure and lack of mid-driver might chill those things out?
Also, just for reference, which DB players' tones do you admire/emulate?
Also, just for reference, which DB players' tones do you admire/emulate?
Chef
In Memoriam
No, I don'!. That would just be darker, IMO.
I like Ray Brown, Christian McBride, the cat that plays with Little Willies...lotsa folks out there to admire.
IME, 115, especially the 3015LF, as the lone driver for DB is a horrid idea. Nuttin but mud there. Even the regular 3015, for me, sucked for DB in the Mesa Diesel/TL606-ish cabs. Blech. Didn't sound natural, at all.
Your sonic goals may be much different than mine though...
Perhaps the 12/6/horn might work. Smaller box, not so heavy of a low ende driver, different mid driver, horn for strings and air...I'd like to try that sometime.
I like Ray Brown, Christian McBride, the cat that plays with Little Willies...lotsa folks out there to admire.
IME, 115, especially the 3015LF, as the lone driver for DB is a horrid idea. Nuttin but mud there. Even the regular 3015, for me, sucked for DB in the Mesa Diesel/TL606-ish cabs. Blech. Didn't sound natural, at all.
Your sonic goals may be much different than mine though...
Perhaps the 12/6/horn might work. Smaller box, not so heavy of a low ende driver, different mid driver, horn for strings and air...I'd like to try that sometime.
OK then, we're totally on the same page tone-wise. I thought maybe you were going to say more of a Buster Williams/Eddie Gomez/Gary Peacock type tone...
Can't be pure mud...it's pretty flat out to 2khz...
What kind of pickup do you use btw?
The 12/6/(horn) idea is cool too...that could be light and small...
Thanks again.
Can't be pure mud...it's pretty flat out to 2khz...
What kind of pickup do you use btw?
The 12/6/(horn) idea is cool too...that could be light and small...
Thanks again.
Chef
In Memoriam
Swerve for Kitty:
I'm using a bassmax pickup, and K&K two band pre.
It's something like "ok to pretty decent."
I've tried others, they're all compromises. This one seems to be the best compromise, for me. Nice low end; decent mids and air...and that piezo top end that's always kind of a wrestling match to make sound right.
After much experimentation, I mostly use either a mesa walkabout or MBF1; and the aforementioned LDS 2x8's.
My bass is a 1961 King with a carved top, my strings are Thomastic Dominants.
I'm using a bassmax pickup, and K&K two band pre.
It's something like "ok to pretty decent."
I've tried others, they're all compromises. This one seems to be the best compromise, for me. Nice low end; decent mids and air...and that piezo top end that's always kind of a wrestling match to make sound right.
After much experimentation, I mostly use either a mesa walkabout or MBF1; and the aforementioned LDS 2x8's.
My bass is a 1961 King with a carved top, my strings are Thomastic Dominants.
I'm looking at a LDS 1x15 to run with my Ampeg B25B head and DB that has all plain guts and underwood pup.
Have you considered a 3012LF with a Faital W6N8-120?
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The efficiency match is very good and the Faital looks like it's good to 8KHz. Not so forward between 2-3KHz where hearing is most sensitive but has a nice rise above 5KHz. Don built one of these and KJung did a short review; had a nice airy treble. The voicing sounded interesting and even though I play cabs with horns I wonder whether you'd miss one with a 2-way that went up to 8KHz.
We did some test with the Faital and while it did sound very good with the 3012LF, that "nice airy treble" is really directional. As long as you are directly in front of the cab, you will get it. Step off the the side a bit and it's gone. Still, I was impressed by the sound, considering I had no previous experience with any of their drivers and they seem very well made.
Chef
In Memoriam
I won't really consider any DB cab that doesn't have a horn. It's just not gonna work for me, given past experience.
Update regarding the buzz in my cab. I determined it wasn't the head. Next, I removed the grill to see if I could pinpoint the problem. BTW, inserting toothpicks into the screw holes worked like a charm. Anyway, the issue was the grill itself. I did tighten all the screws on the speakers. Honestly, that seemed to take care of it. The only rattling/buzzing I was hearing after that was other stuff in the room. I guess I'm good to go for now... 
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Doesn't just have to be click or finger noise, depending on EQ. Many of us need some high harmonic content for pitch definition. Distortion high up often really kills woodiness and the beauty of the tone too, IME.
