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Low Down Sound Club: V2
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Anyone see this? Apparently for 300 bucks the Transformer 600 can effectively make a head put it's 4 Ohm output into an 8 Ohm cab (or vice versa).
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BTW-what's the power rating on the 8 Ohm long throw 15 that's currently in vogue anyway?
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BTW-what's the power rating on the 8 Ohm long throw 15 that's currently in vogue anyway?
At that price wouldn't it make more sense to go with two drivers?
Emminence 3015LF is the driver you are inquiring about, also comes in 12"... 2x12 seems to make more sense then 1x15 and a dummy load to me...
I'd rather have a second, small, light little box with the transformer in it and a 45 lb cab than a single 60ish lb cab. I could choose to leave the transformer at home for all but outdoor stuff. At this point it's academic anyway, because I haven't received my 15/6 and I suspect I'll have plenty of juice into it (500 watts) for anything my hack garage band will ever do, since we have our own PA as well. Just curious. So what IS the power rating on the 3015LF?
Specifications: *Power handling: 450 watts RMS/900 watts max *VCdia: 3" *Le: 0.92 mH *Impedance: 8 ohms *Re: 5.31 ohms *Frequency range: 40-1,500 Hz *Magnet weight: 11 oz. *Fs: 42 Hz *Sensitivity: 99.8 dB 1W/1m *Vas: 5.6 cu. ft. *Qms: 6.82 *Qes: 0.41 *Qts: 0.39 *Xmax: 9.6 mm *Dimensions: Overall Diameter: 15.32", Cutout Diameter: 14", Mounting Depth: 7.25".
Some guys are putting 1000w + into their 15/6 cabs.
Seems like an awful lot for a single 15" driver, but I'll never need to be *that* loud anyway.
I imagine they use 1000 watt amps, but I doubt they're pushing that much through the cab. I'm sure I won't need more than 500 and if I need to be louder a 2nd 8 Ohm cab makes much more sense....but I was intrigued by the Glock gizmo....
Well I need some recommendations from you LDS guys. I just acquired a Markbass LMK II and I am wondering which LDS cab/cabs to pair with it. I already have an older LDS 115 that i bought second hand, awhile back, and had Don send the speaker out for re coning, so i had the opportunity to chat with him a few times, nice guy, even offerd to take that old cab back for credit towards a new one. I play in a Rock cover band, but I also enjoy playing all types of music, so i would like a cab that would have great versatilely, tone, and pair well with the little mark to get the full 500 watts if needed. I'm probably going to call him this week, but i wanted to see want some of your opinions were.
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I am in the same boat. I have been looking at the Greenboy / Fearful thread for months and have decided to have Don build me a couple of cabinets based in this design, since I know myself well enough to know I will never actually do them myself! LOL!
Anyway, I play primarily Blues and Classic Rock. My main band is LOUD. Currently, I use (2) AE210 Bergs and either a GB Shuttle 9.0 or MB LMT800. I play either a Sadowsky P/J 5 or a UV70 5. I am able to handle the volume requirement I need with this set up and it is modular, which helps my aging back.
I am looking for 2 cabinets, 1 for smaller gigs that could be used alone, and then an additional cab for "reinforcement" for when I need more volume. I currently have a sedan and am able to get both the Berg's in the backseat crossways.
I was thinking (2) 12/6 or (1) 15/6 + 12/6 cube or (1) 15/6 + 15 sub. My primary concern here is first and foremost, to meet or exceed the volume capability I current have with my Bergs. I also want to stay close to the Berg 42 lbs. per cab. And, they have to fit in my car!
One more thing, the GB thread seems to favor a fixed attenuator instead of the variable or L pad I am used to. On the surface, it would seem the variable would be more flexible, especially going between 1 or 2 cabinets. I know the fixed crowd recommends a switch to have 2 fixed setting. One more thing, these will NOT have tweeters.
Sorry to be so long winded here, just looking for some input before I call Don.
Thanks!
Anyway, I play primarily Blues and Classic Rock. My main band is LOUD. Currently, I use (2) AE210 Bergs and either a GB Shuttle 9.0 or MB LMT800. I play either a Sadowsky P/J 5 or a UV70 5. I am able to handle the volume requirement I need with this set up and it is modular, which helps my aging back.
I am looking for 2 cabinets, 1 for smaller gigs that could be used alone, and then an additional cab for "reinforcement" for when I need more volume. I currently have a sedan and am able to get both the Berg's in the backseat crossways.
I was thinking (2) 12/6 or (1) 15/6 + 12/6 cube or (1) 15/6 + 15 sub. My primary concern here is first and foremost, to meet or exceed the volume capability I current have with my Bergs. I also want to stay close to the Berg 42 lbs. per cab. And, they have to fit in my car!
One more thing, the GB thread seems to favor a fixed attenuator instead of the variable or L pad I am used to. On the surface, it would seem the variable would be more flexible, especially going between 1 or 2 cabinets. I know the fixed crowd recommends a switch to have 2 fixed setting. One more thing, these will NOT have tweeters.
Sorry to be so long winded here, just looking for some input before I call Don.
Thanks!
Just sent a downpayment for a little beast that Don is going to build for me - 1x15 plus a 1x10, no tweeter, rear ported, built in rack space for my Mesa 400+. Don said he used to own that head and knows that it has the ability to destroy speakers, so we are using heavy duty drivers (Kappa Pro 15A and Delta 10A) and heavy birch plywood for the cab. It's going to be heavy, but it will be on casters. About 3 cubic feet internal volume - I asked him to keep the dimensions as small as possible, and rear ports should help. I am going for a more vintage tone.
First, don't let ANYONE talk you into not including an attenuator for the midrange. It works wonderfully, and there is no downside that I can see. Don has been putting attenuators on cabs with mid drivers for years and years with no problem.
I guess the only thing I would say (having played a bunch of the 15/6's and 12/6's is that the tone you will achieve is totally, completely different from the 2 x AE210 (I use an AE410)... MUCH deeper down low, MUCH cleaning in the mids, much 'purer and fatter' versus the aggressive grind and punch of the AE cabs (which I love more than life itself).
So... just so you know... volume-wise, 2 x 12/6's can easily keep up with two AE210's, but the tone will be night and day different (not better or worse, but WAY different).
Hey guys, I have a problem with my LDS cab. It farts out whenever I pluck my strings aggressively. Not even insanely hard, I don't play that aggressively. But it happens all the time.
I've used different basses, different heads (flat EQ, not a lot of bass boost or anything) different power and speaker cables, different input/master volumes. It doesn't matter what settings I use, I can get the cab to fart out/buzz at any volume just by playing hard and sending a volume spike. The weird thing is that I can get really loud as long as I keep the dynamics really quiet, I've never heard of anything like it. I can crank the master and input volumes on my GK 1001 RB-II and get a clean, loud tone, but as soon as I play hard I hear a buzz.
It's not just the 12's, I can hear it through the mid and tweeter too. Any ideas?
I've used different basses, different heads (flat EQ, not a lot of bass boost or anything) different power and speaker cables, different input/master volumes. It doesn't matter what settings I use, I can get the cab to fart out/buzz at any volume just by playing hard and sending a volume spike. The weird thing is that I can get really loud as long as I keep the dynamics really quiet, I've never heard of anything like it. I can crank the master and input volumes on my GK 1001 RB-II and get a clean, loud tone, but as soon as I play hard I hear a buzz.
It's not just the 12's, I can hear it through the mid and tweeter too. Any ideas?
Sounds like a funky crossover to me. Time to call Don. Might just be something in the cab vibrating. I swore I blew a speaker in one of my TecAmp cabs, and it turned out to be a loose baffle board (probably from shipping).
Hey Captain Dan,
I regularly experience a similar phenomenon, only it isn't limited to a particular type of cab or head. Sometimes when I dig in moderately--not as hard as I can or have done in the past--such as during a driving chorus or final verse, I get a somewhat distorted, grinding tone which I never seek. It's not true farting and not bad distortion like a blown speaker; but it's an immediately noticeable fuzz/distortion/grind.
It seems to occur a little more often when I pick than when I pluck, but it occurs with both methods. The clipping indicators aren't lighting up when this happens, and it occurs more on the E and A strings and when I'm picking/plucking near the neck. I've wondered about problems involving crossovers (as KJung suggested) and pickups; but I've experienced it with virtually every combination of P-basses, a J-bass, all-tube heads, hybrid rack rigs (tube pre w/ solid state power amp), solid state integrated heads, Bergantino cabs, Acme cabs and a couple of other brands of cabs. In every instance, my cure--like yours--is to increase the volume and use a lighter touch.
I'm not entirely opposed to using a consistently lighter touch and adjusting the volume, but fiddling with electronics at the highlight of a song can be a bit of a groovekill. I just started using a volume pedal, which is less of a distraction than adjusting the knobs on my bass or amplification rig; but I'd prefer to find/cure the cause and concentrate solely on the music. Has anyone else out there experienced this?
I apologize for the hijack. I, too, have a Fearful-design cabinet that Don should commence building any day now. If it cures this problem, I'll be a user for life. If there's a cab-related solution of which I'm not aware, I'd love to know and have Don incorporate it.
Yep, that's exactly what I'm experiencing! I guess it's good to know that it's not just me haha. I'll give Don a call tomorrow.
I am by no means an expert. But have you tried turning down the input signal...and then matching the volume you need with the master volume? When you dig in hard....does that not increase the input signal to the preamp...which in turn could create an overload?
Just thinkin outloud.
It's a good thought, Brick Top. I have tried that (and countless EQ changes) and it occasionally helps a little, but usually not at all. It also doesn't explain why turning the volume UP on the bass--which also increases the input signal to the pre--and using a lighter touch is the only dependable fix.
Thanks for the well-considered suggestion.
@ Ken - thanks Ken, I appreciate your comments. I too, like the Berg sound, but find I want more lows since I have moved to a 5 string and also would like a little boost in the mids. Now, when I play the higher strings, they kind of get lost. Don't really do to much that requires a tweeter, so I usually have mine turn back.
Am other ideas or impressions?
Am other ideas or impressions?
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