Mackie DL1608 in the house!

[walterw]

how many players? that's your limiting factor.

you would use a splitter snake, with one end as the stage box you plugged all the mic cables into, and the other end being split into two batches of XLR male ends; one set of ends would go into the stage snake that went to the front, and the other set would go into your mackie mixer.

if you had four musicians you could rig up stereo IEM mixes for everybody (really cool) and with a wireless router everybody could do their own mix with an ipad or even iphone (the iphone won't do panning or EQ, just the levels).

with more than 4 players we're talking back to mono mixes, which can still be OK if you guys can tweak them to where you're happy. either way the soundguy could do whatever the hell he wanted out front, you wouldn't even have to care.

thing is, to do this right (and not have every soundguy everywhere hate you) you need to bring your own mics, mic stands, and mic cables too, so that everything you hear is the same night to night.

 

[RoadRanger]

So I want to use the 1608 on stage for all of our IEMs, but need to feed each signal to the house mixer too. Eight mics/instruments, plus all the drum mics. Any ideas?

Why not do it the way it's always been done for years and years - a splitter snake. I had a cheap one I used with an SL16 - it was a 16 channel and cost me $150 at the time.

 

[musicman7722]

Costs a bit but the easy way is to get a splitter snake. I have been doing this for quite a few years now.

 

[Zephrant]

Would a cheap non-transformer one be adequate? Five performers, so five mics, two guitars, bass and drums.

Local places require that we bring all our own mics and stands already, so are covered there.

 

[musicman7722]

Yes, mine is from 16 channels with a 30' let and a 15' leg.

 

[Zephrant]

Do you use/need to 30' leg much? Found a 15' x 15' one for $200:
http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com...nake-cable-two-15-foot-trunks/p/SATSS-16x1515

 

[musicman7722]

I have had a need for it in the past depending on the placement of the foh box or where our sound man placed his board.

 

[4Mal]

More expensive but ... Neat clean and tidy cabling is the way to go for me, YMMV. A pair of a ART S8 isolated splitters in a rack and a pair of stage snakes is IMO the way to do it right.

I sold off a pair of those last year and got about $150 for each... They were part of my last analog live recording rig. Not much to go wrong in them so me, I'd be scouring the deep, dark recesses of the used market... Ground lifts and isolation just might save the day for you ...

 

[musicman7722]

Done that before, to many cables.

 

[jimfist]

Will Mackie have an answer to this new Behringer digital mixer: XR18 X-Air? Suggest street price $699. Wow!! Check out the list of features that Mackie 1608 users (such as myself) have been wishing for.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XR18

 

[EastCoastThump]

Mackie will likely have a smaller version of the DL32R soon, but for now their answer to the rackmount digital mixer niche is $1999.99.

 

[jimfist]

derrico1, is this something that is available information re: Mackie 16 channel? Or did you learn of this through a Mackie employee? Just curious. FWIW, I won't be going back to Mackie for a digi mixer until they allow Androids or Windows OS laptops into the game for wireless control. This is one sticking point that other digi board manufacturers have gotten the message on. Even though I think the DL1608 is cool, as someone who gigs with it plenty, I like the idea of having options for when I need a plan B. Also, if a new Mackie 16 channel version can't go toe-to-toe with the Behringer XR18 X-Air in terms of feature set, then I'm afraid that's another nail in the coffin. I'll be anxiously awaiting what Mackie has to offer, though, regardless.

 

[EastCoastThump]

No inside knowledge. I'm just judging based on their past patterns, both with previous mixer lines and with the DL series mixers.

 

[musicman7722]

Hmm no slander meant I just don't trust Behr. stuff.

 

[walterw]

dudes, watch the youtube vids for the mackie DL32, it looks freaking amazing.

DCAs, subgroups, full multi recording, matrixes, some kind of dante connection coming soon, all of it.

external hard drive playback, so you (or the players) can start sequences and stuff all from the ipads, and you can do "virtual soundchecks" with last night's show.

 

[EastCoastThump]

you can do "virtual soundchecks" with last night's show.

Dumb question: I've been wondering about this feature on the new digital boards. Have any of you used it? For any work that I'd be bringing PA for, the mix balances the PA with stage spill, so I'm having trouble imagining how I'd using a virtual sound check for much more than a general roughing in—the sort of thing I already use scenes and templates for. What am I missing?

 

[walterw]

Dumb question: I've been wondering about this feature on the new digital boards. Have any of you used it? For any work that I'd be bringing PA for, the mix balances the PA with stage spill, so I'm having trouble imagining how I'd using a virtual sound check for much more than a general roughing in—the sort of thing I already use scenes and templates for. What am I missing?

my guess is "probably nothing", unless it was a really quiet band with mostly direct inputs, or you were in a big enough space for stage volume to not be much of a factor. (i like how the first vids mackie did for the DL32 showed the band in a nice wooded outdoor space, perfect for zero-ambient-reflection and near-zero stage volume mixing.)

 

[seamonkey]

Did Mackie ever add MIDI? i.e. easy to add a midi controller

 

[jimfist]

Did Mackie ever add MIDI? i.e. easy to add a midi controller

not that I'm aware of. it would've been a huge, huge development.

 

[Bassworship1]

Alright Mackie experts, here is a picture of my current bass settings. What needs to be changed to get a better bass sound. It's good but could be better in my opinion and I don't know much about these settings.