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[Marlat]

Apologizing is the typical response after being caught.

They apologised before they were "caught". Did you read the article? One person gave him the infringement on Tuesday and the school apologised on Wednesday. It made it into the media on Thursday.

It seems that saying "I'm sorry" makes it okay to be stupid these days.

It doesn't make it okay, it means you are sorry. Are you aware of what the phrase "I'm sorry" means?

They threw common sense out of the door and went out of their way to be offended and they won't even admit that after they were called out. They'd rather rely on a weak "misinterpreted" excuse to justify their actions.

And you know this is correct and their version isn't....how?

In my line of work I call BS when I see BS. Tell me exactly what you did and what you were thinking and I'll let you off easier.

Again, you know they didn't do this....how?

In this case tell me you had a moment of stupidity, arrogance and a general feeling of being unpatriotic and I will admire you for owing up.

So, in effect, you could be asking them to own up to something that is untrue?

Pity that these adults are responsible for shaping tomorrow's youth. They will mold them to be as weak as they are.

THe dress code is quoted in the article. I can see how it could be misinterpretted. Perhaps you think making mistakes is a sign of weakness. Personally as long as people learn from mistakes, I think otherwise. Honestly, you are just as guilty of looking to be "offended" as you accuse the school of being. Its ironic IMO.

 

[syciprider]

Like I said. I call BS when I see it. I know why the dress code marshall got on the kid's case. It was an American flag. It wasn't because of a concern over the rules.

Black and white proof of someone's actions is good but you have to judge folks by how they act on a day to day basis without positive proof of their motivations also.

 

[FL Knifemaker]

I'm all for uniforms. I like my Sons ROTC ones the best. They're pretty much frowned on in Kalifohnia too

 

[Marlat]

I know why the dress code marshall got on the kid's case. It was an American flag. It wasn't because of a concern over the rules.

How do you know?

Black and white proof of someone's actions is good but you have to judge folks by how they act on a day to day basis without positive proof of their motivations also.

So you are familiar with this particular persons actions on a day to day basis? Come on. This is getting even more ludicrious than the actions of the person in the first place. You want to be offended.

 

[syciprider]

Experience leading large bodies of ppl, most of whom don't like to be there. You're a lawyer I understand that everything has to be clear. I have to operate with my ******** detectors on. And I detect BS on the part of the dress code marshall.

 

[Marlat]

Experience leading large bodies of ppl, most of whom don't like to be there. You're a lawyer I understand that everything has to be clear. I have to operate with my ******** detectors on. And I detect BS on the part of the dress code marshall.

Oh don't worry, my detectors flying off the chart reading this thread!

 

[syciprider]

Touche

 

[KeithBMI]

Oh man! I wish my school had DCV shirts. I would wear them like a badge of honor.

 

[hbarcat]

I'm inclined to agree that this was the result of an overzealous (and not that smart) assistant principal who misinterpreted the school rules (whether intentionally or not) and other school officials were sincerely horrified that it happened.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

PC? Sounds more like a Mac situation.

 

[Kgoodrich]

Instead of teaching everyone how not to offend others, how about we teach everyone how to get over themselves?

+1

 

[LKdubby]

I don't want mention the Vice Principal's name, because I have a child that is a student at Dos Palos High School. However; it is public record.

www.dpol.net click High School and click Admin.

:: 09/19/08 7:20am - chris_from_dogpatch

I wonder how many phone calls the school has been receiving! I imagine their phone's been ringing off the hook with hate calls..

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

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[Muusers]

You should have seen my high school campus. We had, uh.....some issues.

Mike

so the soup nazi wasnt the only nazi there?

 

[BassyBill]

How ridiculous. Being PC has gone way overboard.

There was nothing "PC" about this at all, imo. It was stupid (at best) and possibly even bigoted (at worst).

I know "PC" is a great catch-all term that helps us get all indignant and offended ourselves, but it's over-used, I think. It may depend on how one uses the term, but I just don't think "politically correct" really describes the thought patterns which led to this incident, given the normally accepted meanings of the two words in the phrase. "Politically suicidal" would be more accurate.

 

[mike_v_s]

so the soup nazi wasnt the only nazi there?

PM'd.

Mike

 

[mike_v_s]

There was nothing "PC" about this at all, imo. It was stupid (at best) and possibly even bigoted (at worst).

I know "PC" is a great catch-all term that helps us get all indignant and offended ourselves, but it's over-used, I think. It may depend on how one uses the term, but I just don't think "politically correct" really describes the thought patterns which led to this incident, given the normally accepted meanings of the two words in the phrase. "Politically suicidal" would be more accurate.

I think that IF (and that's a huge "if", though not the biggest one I could manage, i'm just trying to use a little judgment with the fonts), the shirt was removed because they felt it would somehow offend someone, then the term PC fits perfectly. Since the people arguing that point seem to believe that was the motivation behind the removal, then I think their use of the term is warranted and even accurate within the context of their argument.

That stated, I disagree with it.

Mike

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

There was nothing "PC" about this at all, imo. It was stupid (at best) and possibly even bigoted (at worst).

I know "PC" is a great catch-all term that helps us get all indignant and offended ourselves, but it's over-used, I think. It may depend on how one uses the term, but I just don't think "politically correct" really describes the thought patterns which led to this incident, given the normally accepted meanings of the two words in the phrase. "Politically suicidal" would be more accurate.

Well said.

 

[Pilgrim]

From the original news story, if I were the parent there would be at least one lawsuit against the school. I might forgive the t-shirt idiocy (only after a public apology from the school), but I'd go after that teacher who ripped off the microphone with all guns blazing.

And I could find it VERY easy to attend every school board meeting for the next couple of years and bring up the T-shirt issue at EVERY single meeting. I could really make them miserable.

 

[BassyBill]

I think that IF (and that's a huge "if", though not the biggest one I could manage, i'm just trying to use a little judgment with the fonts), the shirt was removed because they felt it would somehow offend someone, then the term PC fits perfectly. Since the people arguing that point seem to believe that was the motivation behind the removal, then I think their use of the term is warranted and even accurate within the context of their argument.

That stated, I disagree with it.

Mike

You're right. That's one big "IF".

But yes, I agree that the term "PC" is often used when people are trying ridiculously hard to avoid causing offence where none can properly be taken. But that is my point really - it may be political (I suppose) but I really don't see anything correct about it. Quite the opposite. And it's clearly a bad term when it's got a lot of folk thinking that it's actually desirable to be politically incorrect. How on Earth is that supposed to work?

Sounds like you'd agree, I think?