If it becomes legal, who's going to pay $480 an oz when the stuff will grow just about anywhere?
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Marijuana Reform. (an interesting article.)
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If it becomes legal, who's going to pay $480 an oz when the stuff will grow just about anywhere?
I've had multiple family members DIE from the use of alcohol and cigarettes and I personally know (or have known) doctors, police officers, artists, prominent business owners, politicians, licensed professionals, etc who smoke pot regularly. Anecdotal evidence isn't very useful in these sorts of conversations.
similar arguments could be made against alcohol, fast food, cigarettes, television, internet, rock n' roll, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
true, the stuff from mexico is under $100 an ounce here, and no one I know ever buys it unless they can't get ahold of "proper" american grown products. It's sort of the pot version of a plain white pack of cigarettes that say "SMOKES" on them in block lettering.
Well, I think you answered with why government claims to care, but his point is that obviously that isn't the case or else we would have prohibitions on the other drugs he mentioned as well (such as alcohol and caffeine). I don't think he was trying to twist your words so much as he was simply showing the logistical error in that particular justification. Anyhow, the reasons that you mentioned are all negative effects that come from negligent use by the person ingesting the drug, and should be punished in the same way that we currently punish those who negligently abuse other legal drugs (such as alcohol or NyQuil).
OTOH, I do agree with you that those points you raise are very important and that those sorts of activities need to be treated in the same way that we treat them when they occur with other drug use.
If it was made legal, taxed and regulated like alchohol, and priced similarly to current illegal prices, the black market would undoubtably continue.
It is simply too easy to grow and distribute for the government to fully regulate it. That may be one of the reasons it remains illegal in so many places.
It is simply too easy to grow and distribute for the government to fully regulate it. That may be one of the reasons it remains illegal in so many places.
Based on the savings rates of Baby Boomers when I last checked, this may not be an issue for most of them.
Based on the savings rates of Baby Boomers when I last checked, this may not be an issue for most of them.
Ha! What savings rate?!
I wholeheartedly disagree with this assessment.
If a consumer has a choice between a well regulated and "safe" product purchased legally vs. a product of unknown origin purchased illegally, and they are both priced the same, I think it's easy to determine which product is going to win out.
I can go buy illegal "moonshine" any time I want, and there will always be a small market for it (heck, it's pretty dang easy to brew up)... but you don't see the government spending billions every year to fight that now do you? Why? Because you can get well regulated, quality controlled alcohol easily and legally... so there's no market for it.
The black market price would fall, because the risk goes down.
I think the underage population would continue to buy illegally, and many others would grow it themselves.
I think the underage population would continue to buy illegally, and many others would grow it themselves.
I'm sure that the government's ban of home distilling has nothing to do with the fact that it's pretty explosive and can contain methanol.
$100 for super light per ounce when we legalize it. Whose gonna pay that when you can grow pounds for your head (not for resale) for under $800/month. It's gonna make the electrical companies richer, no doubt. Growers now either jump the lines and steal power (no no) or just make huge profits from cash crops. Some strains yield way more than others, and that may not be the best for the individuals. The home indoor brew will never die, it will be much safer and better than hitting the street or a pot club. The safe product purchased legally will always win out. Period. Always. And the clubs and all that, they're gone if it goes legal in november. And it does make you crazy and paranoid. I don't think stoners would be as crazy or paranoid if they didn't have to have eyes in the back of theirs heads. When it is regulated the gangster persona types will get weeded out, no pun intended. It's all about legitimacy and it is coming.
While the govt might seem to be only interesting in taxation, home distilling is very unsafe all around. I'm not pro govt by any stretch, but sometimes you need rules for a reason.
If you don't see the relevance, I don't know what to tell you.
There are inherent dangers with all the lighting and electricity issues with indoor grow ops. That alone will probably make the home growers illegal just like moonshine. Hindsight is always 20/20 and we still gotta see how the people will vote.
I think you underestimate moonshine. Very explosive and hindsight isn't 20/20 if you get too much methanol.
I agree with you completely. Explosive fire hazards are all bad for any residential area. And regulations will arise from it. I forgot moonshine makes you go blind too, then again my memory is done for. haha...
Small detail, plus the stuff is just nasty! Homebrewing is legal, safer, easier, etc.
On a side note, with the microbrewing kick, microdistilling is starting to take off. I don't pay attention to how much it's taxed compared to brewing, but I know it's very tightly regulated due to the hazards. I recently purchased some locally made vodka, although I only drink beer and mostly bought it for company and supporting local.
The reason most growing is done indoors is from fear of prosecution (it's illegal) and fear of getting ripped off (the illegal status drives prices up, making it a VERY valuable commodity).
In reality, the stuff LITERALLY grows on trees (okay...bushes. But you know what I mean). The sun provides all the light you need to easily grow more cannabis than you know what to do with. You don't see people getting robbed of their tomatoes, bell peppers, and lemons do you?
Having said that, it's perfectly legal for medical marijuana patients in California to grow their own. You sure couldn't tell by the amount of business the dispensaries are getting...people are lazy I guess.
In reality, the stuff LITERALLY grows on trees (okay...bushes. But you know what I mean). The sun provides all the light you need to easily grow more cannabis than you know what to do with. You don't see people getting robbed of their tomatoes, bell peppers, and lemons do you?
Having said that, it's perfectly legal for medical marijuana patients in California to grow their own. You sure couldn't tell by the amount of business the dispensaries are getting...people are lazy I guess.
Moonshine will only make you go blind if it is mixed with methanol, or if you drink like ten hundred gallons a day or something...
Pot heads aren't lazy..................
I know, huh?
When you do the math, there is absolutely NO reason to pay retail for this stuff. But then again, not many people grow their own tomatoes, bell peppers, and lemons and would rather buy them at the market. People are lazy!
