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Mark Hoppus - Blink 182
- Thread starter Paul182
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also the the song after Carousel is pretty cool and its really fun to play. If you wanna check out some of marks "best" work, check out the album Budda, not sure if its spelt right.
*Munkeh* said:I was wondered what's so good about Mark's playing in carousel, it's not fast or anything or with any techniques, it just sounds melodic to me, is that what's the only thing good about it?
You see, this is exactly the kind of musical mindset I HATE. What? It's not flashy? Then I'm not going to pay attention.
Matt Till said:
Well i don't care if he played flashy or not, it's just that nearly everyone who said "wow mark plays great in carousel" immediately i thought ok instead of Mark playing
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I thought it mark would do something insane in that song judging from how people's reaction are towards Mark in that song.
I downloaded the song today, yes i think it's catchy and a good bass riff but i expected something more complex liker Rancid punk playing from how people looked at Mark's playing in this song only.
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*Munkeh* said:
But there it is again, you were expecting something more complex. The fact that it's catchy is the main thing that makes a POP punk bassline good.
i think there are standards that ideally should be upheld:
1)keeping the beat/marrying melody and percussion: This, i think we'll agree, is the most important role of the bassist, and back in the day, and by day, i mean 1997, Enema was industry; like i think that it is the white album of anyone born post-1985 just going on its ubiquitessness and mass appeal (it used to sit next to my metallica albums and right before RHCP in my cd wallet dealy). That was when Travis was his craziest and Mark did a really, really good job in holding everything together. Flashy does NOT equal good. some guys try to get flashy and everything goes to s**t, others can do it, most can't.
2) Note Choice: This is a strike against him. It is rare that anything ever suprises me in their chord progressions; he never even goes up an octave for the hell of it.
3) instant classics: yes, they had the advantage of TRL, but many of the songs pre-enema of the state are neo-classics in their own right, those that instantly jump to mind: Josie, Carousel, apple shampoo. Then, on enema, almost every song is gold. Come on, Wendy clear? Mutt? great songs, great drumming, and then there's mark holding down the bottom AND singing harmony. has anyone here ever tried to sing harmony while playing? it sucks.
4) singing+playing...yeah i did it up there.
long story short. it's preference. Emo kids and those annoying pop punk posers who bring their moms to the concerts (many of them not even HOT moms) do make me want to kill someone because of their often missguided elitism, but everyone's entitled to their opinion and nothing will ever be solved here.
1)keeping the beat/marrying melody and percussion: This, i think we'll agree, is the most important role of the bassist, and back in the day, and by day, i mean 1997, Enema was industry; like i think that it is the white album of anyone born post-1985 just going on its ubiquitessness and mass appeal (it used to sit next to my metallica albums and right before RHCP in my cd wallet dealy). That was when Travis was his craziest and Mark did a really, really good job in holding everything together. Flashy does NOT equal good. some guys try to get flashy and everything goes to s**t, others can do it, most can't.
2) Note Choice: This is a strike against him. It is rare that anything ever suprises me in their chord progressions; he never even goes up an octave for the hell of it.
3) instant classics: yes, they had the advantage of TRL, but many of the songs pre-enema of the state are neo-classics in their own right, those that instantly jump to mind: Josie, Carousel, apple shampoo. Then, on enema, almost every song is gold. Come on, Wendy clear? Mutt? great songs, great drumming, and then there's mark holding down the bottom AND singing harmony. has anyone here ever tried to sing harmony while playing? it sucks.
4) singing+playing...yeah i did it up there.
long story short. it's preference. Emo kids and those annoying pop punk posers who bring their moms to the concerts (many of them not even HOT moms) do make me want to kill someone because of their often missguided elitism, but everyone's entitled to their opinion and nothing will ever be solved here.
Could you give me your definition of correctly?emo_trash said:
And it's not hard to play and sing if you're just pounding away root notes.
Sonorous said:
i view playing correctly as adapting to the type of music you play and he does he plays fast and he plays what the band needs.And regarding singing and playing it is hard because he does not allways play just root notes he alot of melodies to and thats hard to sing and play.i am bye no meens saying mark hoppus is amazing but he doesent deserve to get ripped on for doing what he loves.
Mark has lots of cool stuff..... He does what he needs to play in the bad. I dont know what you guys expect from this kind of bassist. And he is faster now than ever before... Check out "Go live on AOL if you can"
Or for other cool tunes, Mutt, Always, Malboro man, Reebok Commercial, heck a ton of their early stuff I'm not even continueing with those....
I mean, hes not the kind of bassist you compare to Victor Wooten.... all the Hoppus bashing is starting to really tick me off.... These are completely different kinds of bassists.... They each play the music they like.... Maybe we could start baseing bassists on their income.
Or for other cool tunes, Mutt, Always, Malboro man, Reebok Commercial, heck a ton of their early stuff I'm not even continueing with those....
I mean, hes not the kind of bassist you compare to Victor Wooten.... all the Hoppus bashing is starting to really tick me off.... These are completely different kinds of bassists.... They each play the music they like.... Maybe we could start baseing bassists on their income.
Well, I'll agree that it's important to play for the song, and that Mark does so. However, it's still not difficult. Give him three chords, and he'll play three notes over and over. That isn't hard, and telling everyone that it is won't make a bit of difference. I've never heard him play a melody. He could spice things up and still play for the song. This is what makes Mike Dirnt much better than Mark Hoppus.emo_trash said:
So, now you're going to base your opinion of a bass player on what covers they can play? What happened to writing a solid bass line that fits the song?emo_trash said:
Dude Ranch and Cheshire Cat are a lot of fun.
when i listen to B-182 songs i prefer the ones that Mark sings to the ones the Tom sings... thus, i'd have to say Mark's a good singer...... wish i could sing. :-/ as far as his bass play, it's really hard to tell how much talent he has since the B-182 project wasn't a vehicle to feature his bass playing... i'd like to see what he does and gets involved with post B-182...
when i listen to B-182 songs i prefer the ones that Mark sings to the ones the Tom sings... thus, i'd have to say Mark's a good singer...... wish i could sing. :-/ as far as his bass play, it's really hard to tell how much talent he has since the B-182 project wasn't a vehicle to feature his bass playing... i'd like to see what he does and gets involved with post B-182...
