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Me and My SVT just got Shutdown

#84
A smaller bass cab is only going to have a slightly smaller footprint. That bongo player is the real problem here, he needs to be somewhere else like way over in the corner slightly in front of the drum kit and facing sideways, or preferably over on the guitarist side where there's lots of extra space. You guys have the 3 widest instruments all crammed into your side of the stage. You could just swap sides with that inner-guitarists too.
 
#85
stingraysvt said:
The bongo man is cool in my book, and honestly he digs the SVT as much if not more than I do :bassist:, he's never been the one to complain, the preacher is speaking for him really is what it boils down to...
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I was just kidding man, bongos are cool. That looks like a cool band...Hopefully the dude cools his jets about your rig.
What better Rig could you have? A Tube SVT head and 8X10 Cab have been the bassists Primo sound for decades. I dig my SVT rig, 2 speakers less than yours, only because I can move it in a Subaru Imprezza Wagon. If I find an old SVT 8X10 though, I'll def grab it.
 
#86
8X10's just sound so unbelievably awesome! the moving and transporting leave an sour taste though. Have you looked into fEARfull cabs? I have thought about building one just because the theory put into the cabinets is cool. Just a thought if rearrainging the stage layout doesn't work.
 
#89
WalWarrior said:
I was just kidding man, bongos are cool. That looks like a cool band...Hopefully the dude cools his jets about your rig.
What better Rig could you have? A Tube SVT head and 8X10 Cab have been the bassists Primo sound for decades. I dig my SVT rig, 2 speakers less than yours, only because I can move it in a Subaru Imprezza Wagon. If I find an old SVT 8X10 though, I'll def grab it.
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lol! not sweat, I had to step in and defend him because he really is a cool guy. Plus he's taking a little bit of a beating on this thread thus far... lol!

I actually acquired my head a month or two before the cab and wound up winning the cab on eBay and had to go pick it up after the New England Ice Storm rolled through in 2007.

I think the fuel wound up running more than the cab! lol! but it completed my rig! and that was all that mattered!
 
#90
Interesting dilemma.
Since this is an important issue to you, I'd try to get a bit more info before making a final decision.

1st - Absolutely ID the real Issue. It's my experience that people, trying not to offend, sometimes talk around a problem. They say one thing for expediency, yet mean another. Speaking in parables, they poorly convey the meaning or intent of a third party who actually has the concern ? Maybe it’s an easy fix ? Find out.

2nd – Try to pinpoint the actual person(s) with the problem and try to work with him/them toward a compromise. If it’s the set designer: Maybe, allowing/ asking/ challenging the creative people to actually be creative would help. They can utilize/incorporate the fridge in their design motif (draping? Hide? etc) or, through use of lighting, keeping it in shadow. It’s an opportunistic challenge…not a hindrance.:D

3rd- Placement. Maybe the Bongo player is totally obscured from view by half the Congregation due to the Cab’s & your placement/footprint. This might be an issue with his family & supporters.
Bongos are often very showy-rhythmic, driving, expressive and entertaining …an audience favorite, especially if the player’s talented. If he’s flashy…you’re blocking the view and limiting the enjoyment/ecstasy. Re-shuffling the staging by Collectively deciding where you/cab can be placed to limit the imposing footprint might be an acceptable solution.
Of course, there is the possibility that the issue is exactly as presented...too big, too loud, too distracting & it gotta go.
Good luck
 
#93
fourfinger said:
If your church is too small for your SVT, you need a bigger church.

I (half jokingly) suggest you find a tiny underpowered amp for twenty dollars at a garage sale and see how they like that. If not one bandmate thinks it sounds worse and asks you to bring the SVT back, then maybe you really do need a different musical outlet.
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I agree. Bring in one of your other amps/ cabs. Set the sound up so it does not sound that good. When they complain say yea I liked the sound of my SVT better also, lol!
 
#96
stingraysvt said:
Well church makes up probably 80-95% of my playing at the moment, other bands I'm working with are a once a month, maybe 2 times at best, so for that rig to really get used like it should, leaving it there is really the best option, and for a time there, it was my only option, since my house was getting totally renovated...

Is an 810 overkill for this gig... I'd argue that both ways, the stage and the room certainly are large enough to support it, the drummer can get loud and I do need ears or a good rig so I can make out what I'm doing.

Could I do it with a 410 sure, a 210? yeah probably, 2 112's? done it in the past. Could I play it on ears alone? You betcha, but with the church not having a decent monitoring system at the moment, it's me and my rig...

He actually asked me to get him an idea on how much a personal monitoring system would run, Aviom, My Mix, Roland etc... since he found out I could play without anything onstage in the event there was a monitoring system. Plus I already have ears so that wouldn't be an expense for them.

He has good reason for asking he just wants the stage to look clean and if there was anything we could do without then so be it

We really need it too, as I'm really the only experienced sound engineer that goes there, the FOH duties are hard enough for whoever is mixing(it changes week to week), much less tending to the monitors and the board has 2 post fader only mixes, it's just not ideal.

I'm even compromised when I mix, I have to use subs groups to boost vocals for solos and lead guitar when he takes a ride...

Hopefully this is the start of something better...
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I agree with what you are doing and how you've been doing it, and frankly I wouldn't find your rig overkill, as I too have used a big rig in moderated volume situations for years with success. At my church I've had to do a mix of things over the years, experiment with different rigs, go p.a. only with preamp d.i. style box, and finally I'm using this humble Peavey Basic 40 setup with no p.a. support and it works great for my situation at the moment. I hope you find the setup that makes you happy as a musician, and makes your worship team leadership and fellow team members happy too. Church gigs can sometimes be fussy to say the least for the bass player.
 
#99
'Ray, show them this:

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:D
 

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