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Meris Enzo Synth Pedal

The volume issue was what ultimately made me sell it. I can play keys and have real synths so it didn't really make sense to keep around something that I could only use for recording. I think the tracking was okay, nothing to write home about. I think the FI I had tracked better but it is mono only of course.

More than anything I think Meris' insistence on using that enclosure and knob setup completely cripples it. The Enzo in a "big box" format with presets and a master volume control would be amazing.

While I respect your opinion, and agree about the volume control, I strongly disagree with the big box version. This is simple to use given the amount of control it has all in a small space, and you don't need a computer to access it's full feature set.

I really like that it breaks new ground in so many ways, and isn't a repeat of something previously done. It's a writing tool to me, and not a cover band tool - the FI is good for that.
 
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The volume issue was what ultimately made me sell it. I can play keys and have real synths so it didn't really make sense to keep around something that I could only use for recording. I think the tracking was okay, nothing to write home about. I think the FI I had tracked better but it is mono only of course.

More than anything I think Meris' insistence on using that enclosure and knob setup completely cripples it. The Enzo in a "big box" format with presets and a master volume control would be amazing.

Agree with a lot of what you said. I don't understand why it wasn't set for unity gain. Or somehow had the Mix knob be unity gain and fully wet at 3:00 or just something. I'd even settle for an internal trim pot.
 
It's a writing tool to me, and not a cover band tool - the FI is good for that.

I’m intrigued by that comment - do you feel the FI is not a writing tool? If so, why not? Is it due to the main patch creation having to be carried out on a computer?
 
I’m intrigued by that comment - do you feel the FI is not a writing tool? If so, why not? Is it due to the main patch creation having to be carried out on a computer?

The interface of the FI pedal is geared to working with presets with some minor sound tweaks quickly accessable. You do need another interface to really manipulate the sounds quickly and an in-depth knowledge of the pedal to get there. Sure, if you are patient you can get there, but I always found the distraction was too great and the idea passed.

Enzo is simple to go from a pitch shifter to an arp synth line with portamento in about 4-6 actions for example. In the moment of an idea its really easy to hit a sound that works (or at least get to the one you thought would) in seconds.
 
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@Alien8 first of all, thanks for all your input. It has been extremely helpful for me.

I know you are a user of of the Malekko sneak attack. Do you find it useful still for synth bass applications or is the envelope trigger on the Enzo your go-to now?
 
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@Alien8 first of all, thanks for all your input. It has been extremely helpful for me.

I know you are a user of of the Malekko sneak attack. Do you find it useful still for synth bass applications or is the envelope trigger on the Enzo your go-to now?

Happy to help!

The best way to answer this is that it's tricky. The Sneak Attack became a bit of a secret weapon with the Enzo around. There's a few things about the Enzo I really don't like, and the Filter trigger being tied with the Volume trigger (or just being entirely the filter trigger down to in audible frequency?) is that fast plucked notes have no sustain. This actually drove me bonkers about the Sneak Attack as well and almost sold it for far too few monies.

Glad I didn't.

I actually rely on the Sneak Attack to trick the Moog Filter into acting like an ADS triggered filter, and dont use it directly in the audio path (though I'd like to figure out a way to optionally use it there at some point).

So, in other words, all of the volume swell stuff I am doing is by hand, volume pedal or another pedal (Mercury7, TimeLine) amd the shorter stuff without sustain is Enzo, with sustain is the Moog Filter being influenced by CV.
 
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Happy to help!

The best way to answer this is that it's tricky. The Sneak Attack became a bit of a secret weapon with the Enzo around. There's a few things about the Enzo I really don't like, and the Filter trigger being tied with the Volume trigger (or just being entirely the filter trigger down to in audible frequency?) is that fast plucked notes have no sustain. This actually drove me bonkers about the Sneak Attack as well and almost sold it for far too few monies.

Glad I didn't.

I actually rely on the Sneak Attack to trick the Moog Filter into acting like an ADS triggered filter, and dont use it directly in the audio path (though I'd like to figure out a way to optionally use it there at some point).

So, in other words, all of the volume swell stuff I am doing is by hand, volume pedal or another pedal (Mercury7, TimeLine) amd the shorter stuff without sustain is Enzo, with sustain is the Moog Filter being influenced by CV.

Thanks, my Enzo arrives today and I expect to spend the weekend getting to know its capabilities. The more pedals I get, the more complicated things become!
 
Thanks, my Enzo arrives today and I expect to spend the weekend getting to know its capabilities. The more pedals I get, the more complicated things become!

...it can get complex, but doesn't have to. Remember painting as a kid? You mix all the colours together and you get brown. But mix two and get something new.

Good luck with the Enzo, it seems adoption of it is either pass or fail for most users.
 
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While I respect your opinion, and agree about the volume control, I strongly disagree with the big box version. This is simple to use given the amount of control it has all in a small space, and you don't need a computer to access it's full feature set.

I really like that it breaks new ground in so many ways, and isn't a repeat of something previously done. It's a writing tool to me, and not a cover band tool - the FI is good for that.
one of the reasons for me buying the Enzo is exactly this all the demos got me thinking of the potential this pedal has for coming up with bass played and written synth lines for my progressive metal band, i can vouch for the intuitiveness of this pedal and the plethora of sounds and effects one can get out of it but I believe a MIDI device is a must to save and recall all the things this pedal can offer. It just needs time and dedication and it will deliver. This is my second Meris i have the ottobit jr and already have used that for original songs.
 
Ok, thanks everyone for the suggestions! It is really helpful.

I made this clip which starts with square wave, medium resonance, and fast attack and decay. From there I mess with the knobs as I go (as well as eventually switch to sawtooth wave). And I also added a little bit from the other modes as well (Arp, Poly, Dry) just to give an idea how those react with bass as well.



Also, I bought the Akai Deep Impact when it was first released, and I absolutely love it. The more the merrier!

thanks a lot for this can you please share your settings for these sounds and how to dial them in on the Enzo.

Thanks
 
Yep ladder lowpass is the one i prefer of the two LPs. Ok so im not crazy. You must be close to getting that 80s saw wave bass sound im getting then too. Its so good. Thats whats killing me. And the response is so much better on other settings, so its frustrating.

I feel you. I just dialed in the perfect 'Too Much Time On My Hands' synth tone but the triggered envelope keeps missing notes! Ugh.
 
FINALLY! I got to try one of these today. Here’s my take:

this is a really cool pedal! It does a ridiculous amount of stuff. I had a solid 2.5 hours with it (with 15 minutes on my recently-acquired Future Impact for comparison).

The basic waveforms sound fantastic and fat. Dialling in a bit of the modulation knob, (which introduces a second oscillator with increasing amount of detune) gives a very analogue-sounding gentle phasing, especially on the sawtooth.

I was using a Mexican P with rounds and tracking was great. There were two notes (low F# and F) which caused multiple triggering but that may have been the bass itself.

With the synth voices, the lowpass filters sound gorgeous, especially with resonance. This is the best sounding digital filter I’ve heard. The cutoff goes way low (probably 40Hz or less).

It is very easy to dial in good sounds quickly, and great ones once you’ve got the shift functions down, which doesn’t take too long. (The main thing which tripped me up was the fact that some knobs do completely different things (in shift and normal mode) depending on whether the pedal is in dry (not bypassed), mono, poly or arp mode. I can see how it can easy to quickly lose track of which knobs are set to where. For instance, I was wondering why the dry envelope filtered sound sounded a bit naff. It turns out I’d inadvertently switched compression on which killed all the dynamics. I think this happened because the shift knob on this unit was switching out at the slightest release of pressure (I was operating it one-handed, thumb on button, fingers on dials); I was trying to adjust a different parameter.

The triggered envelope control has some pretty cool possibilities and is capable of a reasonable range of sounds, though it is still frustrating that there isn’t separate control over the attack and decay. Due to the fact there’s no (filter) sustain control, the fast envelopes cut off the sound quite abrubtly at the end. This might also be partly to do with the fact that there’s no separate envelope depth control.

The envelope follower was quite disappointing and didn’t seem to have much of a range. (Perhaps there’s a setting to adjust input gain somewhere but I was only using the quick-start manual as opposed to the full one.) That was a shame as the filter on the dry bass sounded pretty good. Not as fat as my analogue pedals but actually pretty decent. I’m pretty sure the disappointment is due to the lack of envelope sensitivity though as it sounded really rather good when sweeping the filter knob manually.

There’s portamento! This is cool. Sadly the scaling on the knob means there’s much more travel devoted to the longer times than to the shorter (and more useable-to-me) times.

I only played with the arp and poly modes briefly. Arp produced some pretty cool sounds.

Ring mod sounds cool too. I’m not sure if there’s a way to decouple it from the envelope whilst still having the envelope controlling the filter, I’ll have to investigate further.

Pitch shifter sounds cool, though I didn’t play it much.

I put the synth into the highest register for lead sounds and I thought it played much more tightly than the FI. (I’m interested to hear if the new FI update will change that as there is to be a new and improved tracking algorithm.)

I’m partly regretting not having bought this last week when the eBay 15% discount was offered. I didn’t buy it today but I most likely will in future next time a similar discount comes around. Yes, it has its limitations but it the sounds it does make are pretty awesome.

I still hope that the good people at Meris will consider a future firmware update to perhaps add more detailed envelope control and refine the envelope follower. And if somehow more than 16 onboard presets (as opposed to SysEx transfers) were made possible then even better.

The above, it goes without saying (except here I am saying it anyway), is all IMHO etc. I apologise if I’ve made any factual errors as regards spec or functionality - hopefully @_Angelo_ will correct me. Congratulations on a fantastic product, Angelo and team.
 
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So question,
I got the Enzo a while back and love it. I recently started setting my pedalboard up to run midi. I’ve go a Disaster Area Midi Box in between the Enzo and MorningstarFX MC6 connecting with a TRS cable. The issue I’m running into is the Enzo does not appear to be responding to the midi changes. I have made sure I have the midi channel on the Enzo and the PC channel set to channel 3. Nothing is changing. Are there no presets saved to the Enzo originally? Do I have to save presets before trying to get the midi to work? I have tried the exact same set up with the Chase Bliss Dark World I have and it works perfectly. Let me know if you see any simple fixes to my issue.
 
Might be a dumb question but have you also switched it from EXP mode into MIDI mode?

The other thing is, Chase Bliss pedals have the tip/sleeve signals the opposite way from Meris. There should be dip switches for each TRS socket on the Disaster Area box so you can select the right mode for each pedal connected.
 
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Yes. I have changed it to Midi for the expression. I was not aware of the dip switches in the Disaster Area Midi Box though. I will be trying that as soon as I get home. Thanks for your help! I’ll be sure to report back!


Might be a dumb question but have you also switched it from EXP mode into MIDI mode?

The other thing is, Chase Bliss pedals have the tip/sleeve signals the opposite way from Meris. There should be dip switches for each TRS socket on the Disaster Area box so you can select the right mode for each pedal connected.[/QU
 
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I’m sure that’ll sort it out. And use a TS instead of TRS cable for the Meris.
 
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