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Mesa M6 Carbine Mega Thread part 3:

I've never swapped a tube before. All I know is that it was a Mesa 12ax7. I just assumed it was the same as the one it came with. I didn't have time to actually plug in and play yesterday, I just swapped the tubes quickly on my break.

Wonder if it'll sound any different? Probably be pretty subtle if anything.
 
I am currently running two GK Neo cabinets (which I like a lot - a 121II and 115III) and was wondering if anyone could comment on how the carbine matches with these guys. I guess more specifically whether or not the combination of carbine sweet highs with GK treble bite will be something that most people would EQ out.

Cheers.
 
It's my personal opinion that, at least for me, the two GK NeoII 112's I have are not a good match for my M9.
The M9 just has too much low end that my GK cabs aren't happy with. You end up having to eq out * a lot* of low end for my GK cabs to take the M9's power without them complaining.

With the GK MB-Fusion, they're stellar.
 
The M6/9 si a big freakin' hammer.
The Fusion is a pretty big hammer.

There's a percievable diff there, but, it's not lots. I can be happy with the Fusion, and I'm sure the audience would likely never notice.
 
New to the M6 family. Had a DB750 for a while, the RH450, then the GB Streamliner 900 the last 6 months or so. Just picked up an M6 a couple weeks ago and have had 2 shows with it so far (classic rock covers, not really my thing, but the gigs pay).

Only sold the DB due to weight. Thought I could get away with class D amps. I've used several of the more popular ones here with varying success, but there always seemed to be something missing compared to the big guns like my DB750. When I played into the M6 for the first time I heard what I was missing. I guess I'm not a fan of those class D little guys.

The M6 took a little getting used to these past couple of weeks. My ears have grown used to the STL900, which has a bit of a dip in the upper mids coupled with my Berg HS210 cabs that have a similar dip in the same region. I plug in the M6 and hear those aggressive upper mids it sounds a bit clanky compared to what I was used to.

After a couple weeks playing it, I tried playing my STL900 again. Wow, the difference was so huge. My strings sounded dead (1 gig old) and I couldn't muster any life out of them with the EQ. At similar volume levels, the M6 sounds much more powerful. The STL900 has its own fatness, too, but I would say that it's more like getting hit in the face with bag o' lard, while the M6 is getting hit in the face with Thor's hammer wielded by the Norse god himself. The STL is fatter, but I think the M6 is still bigger sounding with more complex mids that I've been missing for a while.

I guess I'm not a class D guy. I've tried 'em, and like them well enough, but they only get me 90% there. That last 10% is what makes the experience special to me. My opinion is that the many of the class D's have great tone coming from the preamp, but the power section just doesn't get that same muscle that I hear and feel in the Mosfet-powered DB750 and M6. It's all great stuff, but I just gotta say that I'm loving my M6 right now and look forward to continuing to gain some experience with it on the gig.
 
New to the M6 family. Had a DB750 for a while, the RH450, then the GB Streamliner 900 the last 6 months or so. Just picked up an M6 a couple weeks ago and have had 2 shows with it so far (classic rock covers, not really my thing, but the gigs pay).

Only sold the DB due to weight. Thought I could get away with class D amps. I've used several of the more popular ones here with varying success, but there always seemed to be something missing compared to the big guns like my DB750. When I played into the M6 for the first time I heard what I was missing. I guess I'm not a fan of those class D little guys.

The M6 took a little getting used to these past couple of weeks. My ears have grown used to the STL900, which has a bit of a dip in the upper mids coupled with my Berg HS210 cabs that have a similar dip in the same region. I plug in the M6 and hear those aggressive upper mids it sounds a bit clanky compared to what I was used to.

After a couple weeks playing it, I tried playing my STL900 again. Wow, the difference was so huge. My strings sounded dead (1 gig old) and I couldn't muster any life out of them with the EQ. At similar volume levels, the M6 sounds much more powerful. The STL900 has its own fatness, too, but I would say that it's more like getting hit in the face with bag o' lard, while the M6 is getting hit in the face with Thor's hammer wielded by the Norse god himself. The STL is fatter, but I think the M6 is still bigger sounding with more complex mids that I've been missing for a while.

I guess I'm not a class D guy. I've tried 'em, and like them well enough, but they only get me 90% there. That last 10% is what makes the experience special to me. My opinion is that the many of the class D's have great tone coming from the preamp, but the power section just doesn't get that same muscle that I hear and feel in the Mosfet-powered DB750 and M6. It's all great stuff, but I just gotta say that I'm loving my M6 right now and look forward to continuing to gain some experience with it on the gig.

thanks Scott for affirming my own experience, except I didn't buy an STL900. Since I got my M6, I've been blown away by the punch, the sweet highs and the complex mids that cut so well in the mix and integrate perfectly into the sound. The Slam of the M6 is not to be underrated. I love this amp more than my former Markbass LMII which was my main gig amp for several years. and it was a great amp. The M6 is simply that much better. The fundamental note performance is off the chain and the highs are more pure than any other amp I've played. I use a Bergantino AE410 and it's a perfect match! Welcome to the club and glad to hear its working so well for you!
 
I've heard a lot about the M6 and AE cabs being a perfect march, but I'm really surprised by this. I figured the upper mods of the M6 would be too much with the upper mid oriented AE line (I've owned all the models except the 212), which is why I'm playing it with the HS series. I'm not a fan of upper mods in general. I really like how the low mid hole in the M6 mates with the low mid bump in the HS cabs. It's kinda like a nice yin yang.
 
I've heard a lot about the M6 and AE cabs being a perfect march, but I'm really surprised by this. I figured the upper mods of the M6 would be too much with the upper mid oriented AE line (I've owned all the models except the 212), which is why I'm playing it with the HS series. I'm not a fan of upper mods in general. I really like how the low mid hole in the M6 mates with the low mid bump in the HS cabs. It's kinda like a nice yin yang.

I think its the big deep low end slam and punch of the M6 that mates so well with the mid focused aspect of my AE410 that makes it perfect. also, all the eq knobs on the M6 is very useable. Dialing down the Midrange knob if needed works wonderfully, but maintains what is perhaps the most complex and sweetest midrange I've heard from an amp this side of the lovely, lower powered Mesa Walkabout.

The Preset EQ Shapes also are very useable. I use the second or third EQ shape the most. Actually use the 2nd one that has a bit of a mid EQ scoop and bass hump. I then dial down the Bass EQ Knob to 10 0'clock and it's perfect too! Nice and punchy!
 
I do that all the time with my M9:
Voice 2, trim bass a tad, boost passive mids a bit, trim treble a hair. Perfect.

Right Chef!

Forgot to mention that I also trim the treble to about 10 o'clock too. Must be the magic formula. Get's the slam of voice 2 and dialing down the bass and treble a touch makes it nice and flat, but with the added punch that Voice 2 seems to offer.
 
Hi guys
I am after a little advice.
I am based the other side of the Ocean, so limited Mesa support/ repair centres.
I have got a Mesa Fathom 2x12 combo, all seems to be working fine.
What are the upgrades everyone is talking about?
What issues do i need to look out for?

There is no way i am getting rid of this amp, the tone is fantastic.
 
Hi guys
I am after a little advice.
I am based the other side of the Ocean, so limited Mesa support/ repair centres.
I have got a Mesa Fathom 2x12 combo, all seems to be working fine.
What are the upgrades everyone is talking about?
What issues do i need to look out for?

There is no way i am getting rid of this amp, the tone is fantastic.
In some cases, these amps would have overheating problems, and I think in some other cases, literally the fuse holder was bad.

I had one of the older/original "Fathom" models (later renamed the "M6 Carbine" for unfortunate reasons) and never had any overheating problems, but did have the fuse holder problem. It was fixed and it never failed again. I now have the M9, and as far as I know, it's one of the earliest models that shipped from the factory with the cooling update, and it's never given me a problem.

I think it all really just boils down to these things, and from what I understand, it's not all the amps, so if you're not having any issues, it's entirely possible you never will. Even in the case where people had issues, the amps were never in any danger of damage, because of the protection circuits kicking in.
 
In some cases, these amps would have overheating problems, and I think in some other cases, literally the fuse holder was bad.

I had one of the older/original "Fathom" models (later renamed the "M6 Carbine" for unfortunate reasons) and never had any overheating problems, but did have the fuse holder problem. It was fixed and it never failed again. I now have the M9, and as far as I know, it's one of the earliest models that shipped from the factory with the cooling update, and it's never given me a problem.

I think it all really just boils down to these things, and from what I understand, it's not all the amps, so if you're not having any issues, it's entirely possible you never will. Even in the case where people had issues, the amps were never in any danger of damage, because of the protection circuits kicking in.

Thats a relief then.
Mine is definatley one of the early models, it is marked "Fathom" on the face plate.
It has never missed a beat yet
 

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