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Mesa M6 Carbine Mega-Thread Pt Deux
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Used my Fathom 2x12 this saturday for a nice loud rehearsal, sounded awesome.
One thing is eating away at me though, when i was playing it sounded great but when i stopped playing i am 99% sure i heard a very short very high frequency pop or screech.
I did try swopping leads around but didn't seem to make any difference.
Any one else had this problem? or heard of it.
One thing is eating away at me though, when i was playing it sounded great but when i stopped playing i am 99% sure i heard a very short very high frequency pop or screech.
I did try swopping leads around but didn't seem to make any difference.
Any one else had this problem? or heard of it.
Quick update...
It killed.
Awesome. The M6 absolutely kills it. I recently almost traded my M6 for an Aguilar DB750. I had never really tried the DB750 before so I went to a local store that carries Mesa and Aguilar. Spent about an hour A/B'ing the two heads. The Aguilar sounded mighty nice, but the M6 just makes my ears happy.
Almost. I had the basses in my double bag on my back, the M6 in one hand, and I can pretty easily lift the UL310 with one hand, but it's too bulky to manage doors, so "close, but no cigar". IMHO it doesn't qualify as an MROD.Did you man up and do the one trip in/out???
That it definitely does.
Here's the thing...
With most of the 500W class heads, the 310 is a great cab, but I generally prefer a 410. However, if you push it harder, with a more powerful head, like an M6, or maybe some other higher power monoblock head, the thing opens up like you wouldn't believe. Something magical happens with this cab once you get up into that range between 500W and 1kW (especially closer to 1kW).
Almost. I had the basses in my double bag on my back, the M6 in one hand, and I can pretty easily lift the UL310 with one hand, but it's too bulky to manage doors, so "close, but no cigar". IMHO it doesn't qualify as an MROD.
Get some castors on your 410UL and you'll never use the 310UL again. M6 on top with your guitar stand and wheel 'er in!
Sometimes, larger is actually easier (IME). I can't imagine 'carrying' a 310UL, nor could I imagine taking more than one trip to get my gear into a gig.
Update on my gig on Saturday:
I used the M6 for a live gig for the first time. Since the room is very boomy, I decided to bring my AE210 and I placed it at ear level. DI out from the Mesa to FOH.
I turned the twitter on the AE210 off. Way too much treble. Unbearable... Funny thing is that I rehearsed with my head and a UL410 2 days before and it was wounderful.
Another thing is that I had to switch the input to 'active', otherwise it would distort. Maybe it is because I had a EBS multicomp between the bass and the amp? Bass was a passive P.
Any ideas?
I used the M6 for a live gig for the first time. Since the room is very boomy, I decided to bring my AE210 and I placed it at ear level. DI out from the Mesa to FOH.
I turned the twitter on the AE210 off. Way too much treble. Unbearable... Funny thing is that I rehearsed with my head and a UL410 2 days before and it was wounderful.
Another thing is that I had to switch the input to 'active', otherwise it would distort. Maybe it is because I had a EBS multicomp between the bass and the amp? Bass was a passive P.
Any ideas?
Tru dat, and really, I have casters on my 310, but the wheels are kinda' small, so while I can put stuff on top, it's still kinda' hard to wheel over edges and stuff. Something about spreading the wheels out... even the same small size... does make it easier to roll the 410.Get some castors on your 410UL and you'll never use the 310UL again. M6 on top with your guitar stand and wheel 'er in!
HOWEVER...
The 310 is still very significantly easier to manipulate up and down steps by myself, so I still find myself using it pretty regularly if I don't think I'll really need that extra 10. Remember, all my stuff has to go up and down those steps to my basement every time I use it, and in the wee hours of the morning, the 310 just looks a LOT better to me.
Both the M6 and the AE Bergs are VERY bright in the low treble region, and it is hard to control that with the M6 (the Epi UL cabs have a bit of a hole in the upper mids and lower treble, which seems to smooth the aggressiveness of that lower treble with that head). I typically dial quite a bit of 1K or so out of my sound when using the AE cabs, and there's nothing on the M6 that would allow you to do that.
However, that's also the problem in having a cab up high with a tweeter at close to ear level. It probably sounded fine out in the room, since the treble is the first thing to get eaten up by the audience, rugs, cymbals and every other thing. When you have the tweeter down lower to the floor, the sound you actually hear on stage is closer to the tone that actually makes it out to the room. Often, when that tweeter is blaring in your ear, you get 'fooled' into thinking that your tone is too bright out in the room, cut the top end, and end up having all lows and mids in the room (although I realize you were going through the PA also).
Tru dat, and really, I have casters on my 310, but the wheels are kinda' small, so while I can put stuff on top, it's still kinda' hard to wheel over edges and stuff. Something about spreading the wheels out... even the same small size... does make it easier to roll the 410.
HOWEVER...
The 310 is still very significantly easier to manipulate up and down steps by myself, so I still find myself using it pretty regularly if I don't think I'll really need that extra 10. Remember, all my stuff has to go up and down those steps to my basement every time I use it, and in the wee hours of the morning, the 310 just looks a LOT better to me.
+1 I never felt much difference between the 410 and 310 regarding stairs, but I have a very wide staircase, which allows me to carry my cabs in front of me without having to turn sideways. With a skinnier staircase, a 410 is a pain in the a**.
The sound on the room was ok (the sound guy recorded a nice Logic session with several sub mixes and gave to me! I have the stereo board, 2 ambient mics, etc, isolated vocals, etc...).
I cut the treble on the AE210 itself, not in the amp. I was 100% sure the amp was fine due to the sound I got during rehearsal.
BTW, I have to try the M6 with my older, sealed GK cabs that I love. I bet it will be killer!
You missed my point. IMO and IME, it was a combination of where the treble is voiced on the amp, and that relatively low crossover point and aggressive tweeter on the AE line of cabs. It's all about mix and match. The Epi cabs have a bit of a hole right at the M6 'hotspot' up top, while the AE cabs actually seem to have a bump there (2K or so).
I actually kind of dig the top end of that combination, but would not want it blaring in my ear!
I use the M6/AE410 as my main rig and I regularly cut the treble to about 10 on the MT and use the tone control a bit on the basses I am using to get the sound I want. That combo with stainless steels on a bright bass can be a bit bright.
I have never had any distortion issues with my M6, but I did have a tweeter go bad on the AE410, but it was just dead no sound at all. Actually the cab without the tweeter didn't sound bad either.
I have never had any distortion issues with my M6, but I did have a tweeter go bad on the AE410, but it was just dead no sound at all. Actually the cab without the tweeter didn't sound bad either.
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