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micing vs. DI

#82
right.

cool. my only concern is I don't have any means to try it before we come to some venue so I don't know how it will sound.
I play in an instrumental band so we don' have a PA system at the studio because we don't need it:)

if I go with head DI, is there a problem with crappy drives from pedalboard or it doesn't affect it?
 
#83
elwuss said:
thanks for the infos.

My friend is a very good and experienced bass player and he tells me if the sound guy is not willing to mic it, my second best option is to go with the head DI output, post EQ.

he claims it will beat the hell out of every crappy DI I can encounter at venues.

opinions?
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Depends on your budget. There are a few tube and SS DI that you could invest in per the earlier replies. You'd have to have some kind of splitting and/or coordination with your effects loop.

And the speaker DI option.
 
#84
elwuss said:
right.

cool. my only concern is I don't have any means to try it before we come to some venue so I don't know how it will sound.
I play in an instrumental band so we don' have a PA system at the studio because we don't need it:)

if I go with head DI, is there a problem with crappy drives from pedalboard or it doesn't affect it?
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What do you mean by crappy drive from pedals?
 
#86
You need to cut highs past 5k to do distortion in PA's or cabs with tweeters. Well you don't HAVE to, but soundmen will hate you if you blow a bank of tweeters in their expensive PA's. Some pedals have them built in like the VT, or you can buy a speaker simulator of some sort.
 
#94
probably we have different idea of "good sound".
I admit my sound is not a typical bass sound.

I like it bright and I like the highs.

even if I wnted to cut it a bit - how in the world am I supposed to know what to cut?
my pedals say TREBLE MIDDLE BASS, not frequencies:D
 
#96
Downunderwonder said:
5k is pretty danged high.
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Real dang high. In bass, even if you "like the highs", anything over 5k probably isn't contributing to your tone in the way you think. Honestly, it's all noise and string clank at that level. The woofer on your cab probably doesn't reproduce those tones, which is why the mic works and the DI doesnt. You could deal with the issue with a pedal eq if you wanted.
 
#99
In my view, if you want your DI to sound like your speaker, then you have to do something to the DI signal to essentially emulate your speaker. For most of us, HPF built into the PA system is enough -- or at least it's the basic starting point. That's because a speaker is an electromechanical HPF.

The "emergency HPF" built into our speakers is the port. If you mic a ported speaker, you basically lose all low end. That might be the right thing to do in some pathological situations, but those are also the situations where mic'ing tends to not work very well for other reasons such as bleed.

If you've got something non-mainstream going on, then I suggest getting an extra EQ that's dedicated to the DI, and tailor the DI signal by listening through headphones until it sounds OK.
 

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