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MLB 2022

He was being honest. A small market team, or a team not owned by an insanely rich owner who runs it as a vanity project, simply cannot compete on a level playing field. They have to pick and choose to get a "window of opportunity" of a few years to seriously compete.
It's crapping on the fans who spend their hard-earned money on the team. "Vanity project"? Oh, please. Who actually loses money over the long term owning a franchise in a major sport? No one these days. Even when teams are cash-flow negative, franchise values keep going up, often at a remarkable rate. And cities often shell out tens of millions to help build stadiums--more than they make back in increased tax revenues according to just about any study.

Plus, it's a stupid strategy. Gut the roster and alienate fans with comments like that, and attendance drops like a rock--which, according the Cubs ownership when Covid hit in 2020, leads to 'biblical losses." That'd be the same Ricketts family who are now vying to buy the Chelsea football club.

I understand it's more difficult for small market teams to compete consistently, but barely trying at all as the Reds and others are now is garbage.
 
It's crapping on the fans who spend their hard-earned money on the team. "Vanity project"? Oh, please. Who actually loses money over the long term owning a franchise in a major sport? No one these days. Even when teams are cash-flow negative, franchise values keep going up, often at a remarkable rate. And cities often shell out tens of millions to help build stadiums--more than they make back in increased tax revenues according to just about any study.

Plus, it's a stupid strategy. Gut the roster and alienate fans with comments like that, and attendance drops like a rock--which, according the Cubs ownership when Covid hit in 2020, leads to 'biblical losses." That'd be the same Ricketts family who are now vying to buy the Chelsea football club.

I understand it's more difficult for small market teams to compete consistently, but barely trying at all as the Reds and others are now is garbage.

As someone who has lived near New York for my life, I see the difference in income streams. I actually remember taking a tour of the Cincinnati stadium. They were showing us the seats/club behind home plate, which were sold for about $300/game. I told the usher giving the tour that the Yankees were charging $5000 at their new stadium for the same deal. He almost fainted.

As a Met fan, I finally have an owner who cares more about winning than making a big profit. It's very nice (obviously).

I'm not saying smaller market teams cannot win (see Rays), or that some some smaller market teams haven't been sucking the test (same with some larger market teams - see Mets under former ownership, and yes, in the past the Reds are an example). But as someone who studies this pretty closely:

1. Without a minimum and maximum salary limit, and national, rather than individual, television contracts (latest data I could find was 2020 - Dodgers get $239 million, Marlins get $20) which would level the playing field, the rules favor the rich teams.

2. Smaller market teams can compete, but not constantly. When was the last time the Yankees or Dodgers weren't "going for it"? Successful smaller market teams have to follow a Cleveland/Oakland model of money all - keep a core of younger players, trade off players prior to them becoming free agents, and if you have a successful core, spend bigger for those few years and try to win "in your window". Tampa is an outlier, and frankly, can only do it constantly because no one else does.

3. No owner wants to lose money, but there are teams where owners wanted to win even if they made less money:

- look at Cohen with the Mets. He's a lifelong Met fan. The team has gone from spending like a mid market team to the league having to change the salary structure rules just to put the brakes on him (the "Cohen tax").

- the elder George Steinbrenner would do crazy stupid things to try to win - firing (and paying) multiple managers per year, being the first one to go hog wild on free agents.

- the Dodgers, because of their huge TV contract, well off fan base, etc , also simply have more money to spend on players (and player development).
 
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I will always watch a triple play highlight, doesn't matter what league it's from :thumbsup:

I think my favourite variety is the unassisted triple play. It's such a simple looking play -- catch, touch a bag, tag a runner -- but so many things need to happen for it to be possible. So many fun, random things can happen in a ball game. This looks to be the most recent example of an unassisted triple play, from a game in 2009:

 
Bit of a tough stretch coming up for the Jays here at the end of April going into May:

3 games @ Boston, 3 games @ Houston, 4 games vs. Boston, 3 games vs. Houston, 3 games vs. New York Yankees, 4 games @ Cleveland

That's a lot of Boston and Houston! -_-

Also, let's all send some good vibes to Buck Martinez: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. I will miss hearing him on the broadcast.
 
Bit of a tough stretch coming up for the Jays here at the end of April going into May:

3 games @ Boston, 3 games @ Houston, 4 games vs. Boston, 3 games vs. Houston, 3 games vs. New York Yankees, 4 games @ Cleveland

That's a lot of Boston and Houston! -_-

Also, let's all send some good vibes to Buck Martinez: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. I will miss hearing him on the broadcast.

I loved Buck Martinez as a player and I loved hearing him call a game. I was very sad to hear about his health issues.
 
Houston isn't looking so invincible at the moment. They lost two of three to the Mariners and started slow in LA. The Mariners haven't started hitting for average yet, but they are mashing the ball. That isn't what I like to watch. Win by stringing together a whole lot of singles and doubles and stolen bases. Home runs are inning killers.
 
I am encouraged by the Mariners' walk statistics this year. They are taking walks but not issuing them. Rodriguez has had a rough start, but it isn't getting to him like it did Kelenic last season. Both are off to a rough start, but the Mariners are winning. They have time to come around. This season has a different feel to it than most Mariners seasons.
 
The SF Giants playing with a bit of a chip on their shoulder once again. Dave Roberts of the Dodgers said the the blue boys were going to win the World Series before even a game had been played. i have little doubt that quote from Roberts is up in the Giants locker room. The Dodgers are a great team and the team to beat in 2022, but shouldn't get too confident.They are still going to have to fight their way to the top.
The Giants were predicted by most major media to finish third in the National League West after winning 107 games last year and losing to the Dodgers in the play offs by one run in the ninth inning.
Tough series against the Mets, but I am not worried and a tip of my cap to the Mets. They are a great team.
The Giants are playing hard for nine innings or more no matter what the score. They have already ticked off a couple of teams by stealing bases, aggressive base running and laying down bunts when they have a big lead. Some teams are saying they are violating "unwritten rules." Giants coach Dave Kapler says their vision is more than one game at a time. If they can wear down the oppositions relievers so much the better for the next game. He invites other teams to play the same way. Imagine that, pro ballplayers playing hard for nine innings and giving the fans what they paid for.
 
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Kudos to Miggy. I don't think any other active players are anywhere close to joining the 3000 hit club, so I guess it will be a few years at the least before we see somebody else reach this milestone.

In Blue Jays news: The road trip has gone quite well so far! Took two of three in Boston, and now they've won the first two games in Houston. Let's sweep 'em tomorrow, and then continue the winning ways back in Toronto next week!

And in other Toronto news: My Raptors had a huge win today to avoid getting swept out of the playoffs :woot: It hurt to see VanVleet leave the game with an injury, but a win is a win, and this team won't shy away from a challenge. Game 5 in Philly is going to be TOUGH! But I think the Raps have figured a few things out now, so it shouldn't be easy for the Sixers either.

I'm feeling great today :laugh:
 


It's crapping on the fans who spend their hard-earned money on the team. "Vanity project"? Oh, please. Who actually loses money over the long term owning a franchise in a major sport? No one these days. Even when teams are cash-flow negative, franchise values keep going up, often at a remarkable rate. And cities often shell out tens of millions to help build stadiums--more than they make back in increased tax revenues according to just about any study.

Plus, it's a stupid strategy. Gut the roster and alienate fans with comments like that, and attendance drops like a rock--which, according the Cubs ownership when Covid hit in 2020, leads to 'biblical losses." That'd be the same Ricketts family who are now vying to buy the Chelsea football club.

I understand it's more difficult for small market teams to compete consistently, but barely trying at all as the Reds and others are now is garbage.
 
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