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MLB 2022
- Thread starter Gaolee
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M's got Robbie Ray: Mariners to Sign Robbie Ray
Pretty similar dollar amount and term compared to what the Jays gave to Gausman, though I don't think Gausman's deal includes an opt-out. I wonder if Toronto made a similar offer to Ray or not.
Pretty similar dollar amount and term compared to what the Jays gave to Gausman, though I don't think Gausman's deal includes an opt-out. I wonder if Toronto made a similar offer to Ray or not.
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In addition to signing Semien, the Rangers are apparently signing Corey Seager too. That's a pretty huge upgrade in the infield. A lot of money between those two guys though
They got one! So who do they get next? Somebody right handed, either a batter or pitcher. Do they have any right handed anything these days?
Is Marcus Stroman still out there?
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Still need one or two more starting pitchers. Still need another impact hitter. Bring on the Jose Ramirez trade! Please?? But things sure have become really exciting in a hurry. Fun time to be an Ms fan
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Yes, he is. Someone will be getting a good pitcher, who will want to stick it to the Mets
Nah. I never get excited. Not about baseball. Not about the Mariners.I hope the M's do well just so i can see Will get excited!
Bring on Stroman and the Suzuki kid from Japan and things will really get interesting. The starting rotation with Ray will be pretty good. Add Stroman and there's the potential for converting some prospects or a guy like Paxton or Sheffield to a relief role. The outfield has lots of prospects, but only Hanniger is an established big leaguer. The infield seems reasonably set, and so does catcher if any of those guys can figure out how to hit. Between Kelenic, Trammell, and Rodrigues, there has to be one who can hit major league pitching.
The Seahawks lost this evening. I am a fair weather football fan. Baseball, not so much. It has been a while since the Mariners didn't bring out a whole lot of empty bravado. Being a Mariners fan has been like being a Cubs fan, only no goat and no Bartman to explain away the agony.
I think Seattle could be a good landing spot for Stroman. I've been curious about how his free agency will go. I think he's a great pitcher and I wish the Jays had kept him, but he doesn't exactly do the things that seem to the most highly valued by many teams these days as he's not a huge strikeout guy. He pitches a bit more to contact (and effectively, I think). But teams might not be willing to offer him as much money or as many years as guys like Ray or Gausman. I think he'd be great in Seattle though, which is a pretty pitcher-friendly park AFAIK, if they put some good defenders behind him.
The great thing about bringing on Stroman is that he's very different from Ray. All fire throwers would be a lousy rotation.
It seems Stroman has signed with the Cubs -- I didn't see that coming! It is apparently a deal for three years, $71MM, with an opt-out after the second season. I was a bit doubtful that he would get the same kinda money that Ray or Gausmasn got, and in the end I guess he didn't. After this summer, I'm not convinced the Cubs will be a very good team over the next two or three years, but Stroman is a nice addition anyhow. Maybe they'll be a bit of a surprise, bounce-back team next summer.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Stroman is a good pitcher with a rubber arm. If the Cubs are out in '22, he will make a great trade chip - such is why they like the short term deal.
I'm disappointed he's not coming to Seattle. Contact pitchers like him do well here, since the park is so big in most ways and the ball doesn't usually carry that well. It's a good place for line drive hitters and contact pitchers.
Now that there's a lockout in place, I guess we get to wait a while until anything else happens. The Mariners look like they are going to be good this coming season, which means that there will be a long labor dispute that wipes out the season. Typical.
Now that there's a lockout in place, I guess we get to wait a while until anything else happens. The Mariners look like they are going to be good this coming season, which means that there will be a long labor dispute that wipes out the season. Typical.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
I just hope when this is worked out, they don't expand playoffs too much. Baseball is the one sport where winning the division actually means somethings, and makes the regular season a lot more interesting, since you aren't just trying to slot somewhere in the playoff standings. I would prefer they keep it exactly as it is (or even shrink to 8, with only two wildcards).
Yeah, that was my first guess too. Unless Stroman turns into a pumpkin this year, this looks like a very easy contract to trade to a contender if the Cubs stink in 2022.
But... it feels like there's been a flurry of signings and activity prior to the lockout deadline, lots of teams spending, and not just the teams you would expect to throw money around, so I can't help but wonder if this is a sign that expanded playoffs could be on the horizon. I like baseball's smaller playoff format, and I like that it gives the regular season games more weight. I think the Wild Card play-in game has proven to be very successful though, so there's probably no chance that goes away. If anything changes, it's probably more teams vying for the playoffs. Maybe an expanded Wild Card play-in tournament? Who knows. The nice thing is that it gives more teams something to play for, when traditionally they might have had nothing to play for. Gotta give the fans a compelling on-the-field product. My preference is still fewer playoffs teams though, even if it means my team misses out. I stick with the Jays through even their worst seasons, living and dying ( mostly dying
) with every pitch. I'm sure most people participating in these thread are the same way with their teams. But other more fair-weather fans might not be the same. The league surely wants to keep as many fans as possible engaged with baseball throughout the whole season.I can't stand the division tiebreaker games. If the 162-game regular season REALLY means something, use a tiebreaker such as the head-to-head record rather than making them play Game 163 (followed by a wild card game for the loser the very next day). And I'm not saying that just because the Cubs beat the Brewers head to head in 2018 yet still had to play them again for the division title (and lost).Yeah, that was my first guess too. Unless Stroman turns into a pumpkin this year, this looks like a very easy contract to trade to a contender if the Cubs stink in 2022.
But... it feels like there's been a flurry of signings and activity prior to the lockout deadline, lots of teams spending, and not just the teams you would expect to throw money around, so I can't help but wonder if this is a sign that expanded playoffs could be on the horizon. I like baseball's smaller playoff format, and I like that it gives the regular season games more weight. I think the Wild Card play-in game has proven to be very successful though, so there's probably no chance that goes away. If anything changes, it's probably more teams vying for the playoffs. Maybe an expanded Wild Card play-in tournament? Who knows. The nice thing is that it gives more teams something to play for, when traditionally they might have had nothing to play for. Gotta give the fans a compelling on-the-field product. My preference is still fewer playoffs teams though, even if it means my team misses out. I stick with the Jays through even their worst seasons, living and dying ( mostly dying
The 1981 lockout cemented my love of baseball. It was unlikely, but it happened. I was foreign labor in Norway in a paper pulp products factory. I was happy to be there and getting paid to be there. So I ended up doing the things the locals wouldn't do, like climbing into the pulp vat and fishing around to clear the drain, or crawling under the conveyors to clear out flammable messes. I was worked weird shifts, filling in all the time for whoever was out, along with the shifts I was scheduled for. So a lot. About every week, I would walk or hitchhike into town and buy a copy of the International Herald Tribune in the hopes of reading the box scores for Reds games. But there were no Reds games or any other games. And then I would have a lot of fun being completely unsuccessful at chasing beautiful Norwegian women. Then head back to the garret I lived in. When baseball started again, it was great. And I discovered the key to success with one Norwegian woman anyway. For a while. I don't know if the two were related occurrences. She is living a happy life somewhere, I hope, and I am a baseball fan to the core.
