looks like it is possible to swap SUB Stingray and SUB Sterling necks. From what I have seen they both have 6 bolt necks.
...please correct me if I'm wrong.
...please correct me if I'm wrong.
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
MM S.U.B.
- Thread starter zackthompson
- Start date
I know that the nut on EBMM Sterlings are slimmer.
I don't know much about the SUB's so I am just assuming that the nut on the SUB Sterling is slimmer than the SUB Ray. Also assuming that the heel for the Sterling and Ray are the same.
we all know what happens when you assume though. I could be completely wrong. Time to do some research...
I don't know much about the SUB's so I am just assuming that the nut on the SUB Sterling is slimmer than the SUB Ray. Also assuming that the heel for the Sterling and Ray are the same.
we all know what happens when you assume though. I could be completely wrong. Time to do some research...
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
from these specs it looks like the Sterling has a slimmer nut but the heel is the same for both. looks like the necks can be swapped.
I would love to do a SUB SLO Special.
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
from these specs it looks like the Sterling has a slimmer nut but the heel is the same for both. looks like the necks can be swapped.
I would love to do a SUB SLO Special.
The S.U.B. line was made in SLO. Same CnC machining for shape, routs, drilling, etc. This goes for the necks as well. They just used different wood for the bodies.
This being said, standard EBMM pickguards will drop in without a problem. For the life of me, I can't understand why some aftermarket pickguard providers are adamant that standard PGs will not fit S.U.B.s. You might want new pickguard screws tho, as the S.U.B screws are panhead (flat-bottom) and don't fit into the recessed holes on the replacement guards. I actually loved the look of the bigger chrome screw, but that's just me.
The tuners and bridges are not "Music Man" stamped. This is not to say they are not from the same manufacturer. The tuners may be Schaller (they're marked "PM" on the back instead of BM). I'm assuming they cut further cost corners by having their vendors skip the stamping/engraving process. The bridges are EXACTLY the same dimensionally tho, as I had a genuine MM bridge hanging around and it dropped in like butter.
As far as I could tell, the PUPs and pre were the same as their more expensive counterparts. I actually prefered the battery boxes as they attached from the inside as opposed to the 4 screws on the outside corners.
I've had a few S.U.B.s in my day. I used to like to soup them up aesthetically. Fun little projects at a good cheap jump-off point (my general rule of thumb was to never pull the trigger on one over $350 w/o a genuine MM case). The more beat to hell, the better as I would always contour the bod anyway and have Marty Bell give it a badass finish. I also "ebonized" (Invalid Link Removed) the rosewood boards to match that killer black neck.
They sound great! Virtually on par with EBMM's other 2-band offerings.
Here's a couple I had the foresight to take pics of:
Before (teal):
After, sporting my own contours, ebonized board, Hipshot HB1 tuners, aftermarket gloss black single-ply guard, EBMM molded case, and kickass Marty Bell Candy Orange re-fin:
And a recent white one that I decided to just simply stain the board as I actually loved the white finish...even with the gnarly diamond-plate guard (however, Itchy threw a black guard on after the fact, and it looked amazing):
This being said, standard EBMM pickguards will drop in without a problem. For the life of me, I can't understand why some aftermarket pickguard providers are adamant that standard PGs will not fit S.U.B.s. You might want new pickguard screws tho, as the S.U.B screws are panhead (flat-bottom) and don't fit into the recessed holes on the replacement guards. I actually loved the look of the bigger chrome screw, but that's just me.
The tuners and bridges are not "Music Man" stamped. This is not to say they are not from the same manufacturer. The tuners may be Schaller (they're marked "PM" on the back instead of BM). I'm assuming they cut further cost corners by having their vendors skip the stamping/engraving process. The bridges are EXACTLY the same dimensionally tho, as I had a genuine MM bridge hanging around and it dropped in like butter.
As far as I could tell, the PUPs and pre were the same as their more expensive counterparts. I actually prefered the battery boxes as they attached from the inside as opposed to the 4 screws on the outside corners.
I've had a few S.U.B.s in my day. I used to like to soup them up aesthetically. Fun little projects at a good cheap jump-off point (my general rule of thumb was to never pull the trigger on one over $350 w/o a genuine MM case). The more beat to hell, the better as I would always contour the bod anyway and have Marty Bell give it a badass finish. I also "ebonized" (Invalid Link Removed) the rosewood boards to match that killer black neck.
They sound great! Virtually on par with EBMM's other 2-band offerings.
Here's a couple I had the foresight to take pics of:
Before (teal):
After, sporting my own contours, ebonized board, Hipshot HB1 tuners, aftermarket gloss black single-ply guard, EBMM molded case, and kickass Marty Bell Candy Orange re-fin:
And a recent white one that I decided to just simply stain the board as I actually loved the white finish...even with the gnarly diamond-plate guard (however, Itchy threw a black guard on after the fact, and it looked amazing):
Bottoms up,
Great jobs on those...especially liked the white on that damn ugly chrome pickguard.
Not convinced about the SUB Panhead V Pinhead screw debate but will believe you for time being. Prefer the more subtle dark grey passive with black pickguard but am thinking Abalone all over for the black monster.
Great jobs on those...especially liked the white on that damn ugly chrome pickguard.
Not convinced about the SUB Panhead V Pinhead screw debate but will believe you for time being. Prefer the more subtle dark grey passive with black pickguard but am thinking Abalone all over for the black monster.
got a black, active 4 headed my way. JUST missed out on a dark blue passive last week.....
Once the newie gets here I will post and review - the good SUBs are just so good...
Once the newie gets here I will post and review - the good SUBs are just so good...
I've worn through some of the neck paint on my SUB. Still plays fine, but I was wondering what other people do to protect the finish.
I've been thinking of using some carnauba wax furnature polish or maybe ski hot wax. Just thought this might be the place to ask
I've been thinking of using some carnauba wax furnature polish or maybe ski hot wax. Just thought this might be the place to ask
I just got this in recently:
It feels exactly like playing my SR5 HH, except it's nearly a lb lighter, and has the 2 band pre instead... I'm pretty happy with it for $500...
- georgestrings
It feels exactly like playing my SR5 HH, except it's nearly a lb lighter, and has the 2 band pre instead... I'm pretty happy with it for $500...
- georgestrings
I just got this in recently:
It feels exactly like playing my SR5 HH, except it's nearly a lb lighter, and has the 2 band pre instead... I'm pretty happy with it for $500...
- georgestrings
awesome George! Always like reading your take on gear so keep opinions coming please....
Not in the least. I was scratching my head with the screw comment tho. The screws for the aluminum diamond plate guard are larger and have a flat bottom, whereas the thicker poly guards have countersunk holes to accommodate standard PG screws. It is what it is.
By the way, I countersunk the holes on the white one pictured above so I could put standard PG screws in. I kept the larger screws for another 'Ray project as I actually liked the look on a black PG.
sj_bass
Supporting Member
You made a good choice! Between the SUB and my Dirnt, I'll pick up the SUB 9 times out of 10...
I sense a club coming here... If so, I'll take #1 (only b/c I called it)
You made a good choice! Between the SUB and my Dirnt, I'll pick up the SUB 9 times out of 10...
I sense a club coming here... If so, I'll take #1 (only b/c I called it)
I mentioned it a while back n there was no takers but looks different now.
Hope the prices stay low till I get another one.
Worn paint on the neck-instant mojo.Your own custom relic look,how forward thinking.
Hope the prices stay low till I get another one.
Worn paint on the neck-instant mojo.Your own custom relic look,how forward thinking.
