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Mohini Dey - 2019 NAMM
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Technically magnificent.
If I had the technical ability to do all the same licks, I hope I would play something more soulful and emotional, but we don't have to worry about that. If her technical skills were water, she's the Pacific Ocean whereas I would be a glass full.... or 3/4 full.
It's difficult not to admire her playing, but it's easy for me to get all I want in a relatively small dose. I find myself thinking about seeing her play live with a full band and hearing what she and a technically equal drummer could propel each other to do.
It's still very cool stuff to watch for a while....
If I had the technical ability to do all the same licks, I hope I would play something more soulful and emotional, but we don't have to worry about that. If her technical skills were water, she's the Pacific Ocean whereas I would be a glass full.... or 3/4 full.
It's difficult not to admire her playing, but it's easy for me to get all I want in a relatively small dose. I find myself thinking about seeing her play live with a full band and hearing what she and a technically equal drummer could propel each other to do.
It's still very cool stuff to watch for a while....
It’s not my thing, but I’m glad to see that she’s found something with traction and is running with it.
No, not calling you a liar. Sorry if my comment came across as confrontational.
I love tabla music. I have studied Indian music (both Carnatic and Hindustani) and performed in bands with Indian percussionists.
Tabla players have a strong rhythmic feel and sense of groove that I simply don't hear in Mohini Dey's music.
I hear more Yngwie Malmsteen than Alla Rakha in her playing. She's a shredder. A perfectly valid artistic choice (especially for a NAMM performance).
"She sudied konnakol!" you rightfully mention. But konnakol is just solfege for rhythm; standard "Music 101" stuff for any Indian musician. Someone from a completely culture who's never heard of Julie Andrews might be really impressed if they heard me sing "Do Re Mi." They might say, "Check it out! Mushroo is doing this really cool thing with his voice, where he sings a different syllable for each note of the scale."
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AJ is one of my absolute favorite players.... I hear no similarities between he and Mohini. Technically speaking, she’s a beast, but it’s all flash with most of it resulting in little or no substance. I don’t like comparing Claypool to anyone. Primus Sucks.
It’s a NAMM performance. I wouldn’t judge a player’s sound or style based purely on a trade show spot. Those tend, by design, to be more than a little over the top.
I tend to see Ms. Dey as someone who is technically accomplished but still hasn’t come into her own yet. However, she’s young and has time on her side. So I think the definitive Mohini Dey is still in its first draft stage. Which is to say she’s good from a technical perspective. But I don’t think she’s anything near what the real Mohini Dey is going to end up being.
That said, I didn’t much care for what she was doing in the video. It had some very pretty lyrical moments in places. But the shred segments kinda derailed it and it ended up just sounding all over the place to my ears. But that’s probably just me. I like songs that have a solid underlying theme, show melodic development, and have a clear beginning, middle, and end rather than just meander around a vaguely defined musical landscape for awhile, and then stop.
I tend to see Ms. Dey as someone who is technically accomplished but still hasn’t come into her own yet. However, she’s young and has time on her side. So I think the definitive Mohini Dey is still in its first draft stage. Which is to say she’s good from a technical perspective. But I don’t think she’s anything near what the real Mohini Dey is going to end up being.
That said, I didn’t much care for what she was doing in the video. It had some very pretty lyrical moments in places. But the shred segments kinda derailed it and it ended up just sounding all over the place to my ears. But that’s probably just me. I like songs that have a solid underlying theme, show melodic development, and have a clear beginning, middle, and end rather than just meander around a vaguely defined musical landscape for awhile, and then stop.
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I'll upset the applecart by saying I really liked a lot of things in that performance - some really nice harmonisations. I am not into super flashy playing generally and I couldn't connect with what she was doing with Marco Minneman too well, but I am really interested to hear her own music over the next few years.
Trips me out how so called “musicians” can’t stand high caliber proficiency.
She’s a monster player with chops for days and her low notes tone is fantastic.
She’s a monster player with chops for days and her low notes tone is fantastic.
I absolutely admire her technical virtuosity. One of the best on the planet.
I would love to be able to not-impress-any-of-you with those playing abilities.......sheesh
I'll just drop this here....
I'll just drop this here....
Not everyone is into 'speedy fusion music'. She is a fantastic bassist. I had a suped up car when I was young and sped around town. I haven't done that since I was 25. Maybe that's what she's doing now. Hopefully she'll slow down.
So called 'musicians' huh? Ya ok. Remember, we're all different and have different tastes. No one said she sucked. Just didn't like the performance. Shredders do what they do. Not everybody likes it.
I actually like MonoNeon. Way more melodical in his approach to playing. He does some amazing stuff. And he grooves!
I think she is a supremely talented individual. To be able to play like that at such a young age (this isn't her debut, she's been around for a while now) is impressive. She was able to maneuver her hair back from the neck a couple of times without missing a beat. A barrette may be in order. The music, although technically challenging, suffers from the same problem all fusion does: too many notes without a crucial break in between which allows the listener to process the information. After the first dozen measures your eyes glass over. If she was playing classical music her fans would be crazed by her ability to play the notes perfectly. Because this is a form of jazz, she's called robotic and lacking personality. That's the difference between playing cleanly and playing with emotion. Great musicians give off the feeling that they are sincere and mean every note they play, even if it's during the dreaded eight thousand three hundred and forty sixth rendition of Mustang Sally. We can only give her the benefit of the doubt that she is indeed feeling every note because of the sheer speed they are whizzing by. If there is any doubt, the bass face gives it away. Good for her.
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Go watch Tal and tell me which one you prefer.
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I kind of dig it. And I very much hear the tabla and the various Indian music rhythmic phrases. Very cool.
