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Multi-band compression: We can, but should we?

I might not default to multi-band compression in a recording environment, but I've found that it's been successful for live use, especially for gigs that are mixed from the stage (no FOH mixer), for when there is limited or no time for extensive sound checks, and for when dealing with an obviously "challenged" sound tech staff. In those cases, providing a nearly mix-ready DI has shown to make life easier on many levels. I might not say this or use this approach if the context were different.

I'll say this about multiband processing; it tends to make sounds take up more space. This can be super helpful for making sparse arrangements sound more full. But in the context of a more dense arrangement, there's value in having sounds that poke through but then get out of the way so that other things can be heard, for example, a bass's pluck has plenty of high-mid content. But that's short in duration, while the sustain is mostly fundamental. Limiting this signal has the effect of reducing the apparent volume of the attack, and increasing the relative volume of the sustain (which might be necessary, for say, slap bass). But a bass which takes up more space in the mix is more likely to get turned down so that other things can be heard. That doesn't mean it's universally bad to compress. Just, like anything in music and art and audio, it's highly subjective.
 
Multi Band Compression can be as easy or as complicated as you want. For example:

Boss BC-1X Bass Compressor

VS.

FEA Dual Band Optical Compressor-Limiter

OR

Phil Jones X2C Multifunctional Dual Band Compressor



I am a user (and fan) of Multi Band compression, first with the Boss BC-1X (still one of my favourites), then with the "DualComp" on my Zoom B3n, then now using the "3-Band Comp" on my HX Stomp.

Note that my tone goals are: modern, flat frequency, even tone up & down the neck on my NS CR5 5-string (low B) with Elixir Stainless Steel strings. Old school, lack of mids & highs, this is not. 😉
 
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Multi Band Compression can be as easy or as complicated as you want. For example:

Boss BC-1X Bass Compressor

I am a user (and fan) of Multi Band compression, first with the Boss BC-1X (still one of my favourites), then with the "DualComp" on my Zoom B3n, then now using the "3-Band Comp" on my HX Stomp.
I just got the Boss BC-1X to try out. No one seems to know how the algorithm works, but it sure does sound good.
 
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My biggest question will always be “is there enough of a benefit/improvement you can notice in a band setting?” I’d be very curious to see what others experiences are
In my experience, yes. And in my experience, this is where the Multiband Compression shines - when you’re playing, the low end never drops out! You’re “fulfilling” the role as bass player even better! Edit: take that with a grain of salt,…. by no means do I mean that you’re not good bass player without compression or multi band compression.

When you don’t play a note, the low end drops out (which is super fun). Sorry, that’s a side note.

For any top 40 Cover Bands,… when you’re playing most songs, low end is good & full, correct? Then play “Billie Jean” in first position,……. and the low end isn’t as full as the rest of the set, correct? Now, play through a Multi Band compressor (like the BOSS) and let me know how it sounds,… in the band setting! Problem fixed (IME / IMO) - all full and solid up & down the next.

In my opinion and experience of course. I’m not trying to “win a fight”, I’m just trying to spread the Multi Band Compression knowledge that has worked for me and improved my sheer enjoyment of the bass / music! :)
 
My biggest question will always be “is there enough of a benefit/improvement you can notice in a band setting?” I’d be very curious to see what others experiences are

I'd also be curious to know if there are ever issues with the FOH running additional compression on top of a multi-band-compressed signal. I guess if you're only using it through your amp for stage monitoring purposes and sending a dry signal to the FOH and monitors, it's a wash, as long as you are hearing everything okay.
 
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