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Multi fx's box

Mar 28, 2019
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I know what I want from a unit, I just don't know where to begin to look.

I had a old boss fx unit someone gave me. It did a lot of stuff, but poorly. Most of its fx were very toyish sounding.

Things I want are a good compressor, usable delay, reverb chorus and maybe a couple different overdives or distortions. Studio quality fx if something like that exist. Amp and cab Sims are ok but not my primary concern.

Bonus points if I can set patches and use multiple effects at the same time.

Im not after a certian "sound" but I do want good articulate fx's with diversity.

In also not overly concerned about price but I'd like to keep it under $1000 if at all possible though I'm willing to spend more if it's worth it.

If you guys can give me some general recommendations, that would be helpful. I need a starting point to research.
 
There are a few multi's out there right now, Zoom, Boss, and Line6. In my personal research and opinion, the HX Stomp has the most going for it in terms of bass and community support. If you buy it used, expect to pay about 450-500 these days and it is pretty easy to flip if you decide to go a different direction. Like any of them, there is a learning curve and they are best/easiest edited with a computer.
 
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There are a few multi's out there right now, Zoom, Boss, and Line6. In my personal research and opinion, the HX Stomp has the most going for it in terms of bass and community support. If you buy it used, expect to pay about 450-500 these days and it is pretty easy to flip if you decide to go a different direction. Like any of them, there is a learning curve and they are best/easiest edited with a computer.

Also take into consideration the fact that it's a very "mature" product. It was released almost 6 years ago (equivalent to a century in the digital realm), and since then, the hardware platform have not been updated but Line 6 has updated the softwre multiple times, adding new models and features requested by the community. This very long term support is an excellent protection of our investment, a sort of "anti programmed obsolescence", quite rare for an electronic company.

The drawback is that we expect them to release a new hardware soon, but I'm sure that even then, they will keep on supporting the "old" stomp.
 
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If you guys can give me some general recommendations, that would be helpful. I need a starting point to research.
Can you narrow down for us:
- your level of skill/tolerance for programming, i.e. ease of use and customization?
- what size footprint?
- how many physical switches for changing sounds?

Using my current pedals as an example, on the low-end side, I have the Zoom B6 ($499USD) which is fairly simple to use, has a slew of bass specific features, though it designed with limitations of selection and programming. Perfectly good sounding pedal for basic effects with adequate switching features, and actually has some features you won't find in much more expensive pedals.

On the high-end side, I have the Fractal Audio Systems FM9 Turbo ($1800 USD), which is so deep that it's as though it was designed by engineers FOR engineers. All effects are deep with adjustable parameters, able to be extensively programmed with almost limitless control/switching capabilities, and the effects are world-class quality. The FM3 is a scaled down version for $899. Since I use Fractal stuff, I can vouch for the high quality and selection of delays, reverbs, compressors...pretty much all the effects have been painstakingly modeled and sound great. But....learning curve is high for novice level programming.

Other recommendations:
- Line 6 HX Stomp (XL) and HX Effects (effects-only version)
- Line 6 Helix/Helix LT (their flagship)
- Boss GX-100 (lots of features and programmability for the price)
- TC Electronic Plethora X5/X3 (effects-only using TonePrint technology, a little bit esoteric, but TC is good stuff)

Google "Multi-fx pedals" and you'll see what's out there. Tons of choices in your price range.
 
Can you narrow down for us:
- your level of skill/tolerance for programming, i.e. ease of use and customization?
- what size footprint?
- how many physical switches for changing sounds?

Using my current pedals as an example, on the low-end side, I have the Zoom B6 ($499USD) which is fairly simple to use, has a slew of bass specific features, though it designed with limitations of selection and programming. Perfectly good sounding pedal for basic effects with adequate switching features, and actually has some features you won't find in much more expensive pedals.

On the high-end side, I have the Fractal Audio Systems FM9 Turbo ($1800 USD), which is so deep that it's as though it was designed by engineers FOR engineers. All effects are deep with adjustable parameters, able to be extensively programmed with almost limitless control/switching capabilities, and the effects are world-class quality. The FM3 is a scaled down version for $899. Since I use Fractal stuff, I can vouch for the high quality and selection of delays, reverbs, compressors...pretty much all the effects have been painstakingly modeled and sound great. But....learning curve is high for novice level programming.

Other recommendations:
- Line 6 HX Stomp (XL) and HX Effects (effects-only version)
- Line 6 Helix/Helix LT (their flagship)
- Boss GX-100 (lots of features and programmability for the price)
- TC Electronic Plethora X5/X3 (effects-only using TonePrint technology, a little bit esoteric, but TC is good stuff)

Google "Multi-fx pedals" and you'll see what's out there. Tons of choices in your price range.


I cant really narrow it down because I'm not exactly sure what im looking for. I used to use individual pedals for each effect but sold them all when I quit playing out. Now im thinking being able to swtich between eq settings, compression and fx with the all at once with the click of a button sounds amazing.

Now when you say engineers, do you mean audio engineers or engineers in general? I ask this becuase an audio engineer thinks very differently from say a structural engineer. Structural guys tend to do some pretty convoluted type stuff becuase it looks good on paper, but often isn't ideal in the real world (I build stuff for a living).

Audio engineers I get. I have a pretty good background in music production and a crazy amount of background in audio reproduction. I can operate complicated daws and all sorts of plug-ins easily as well as many overly complicated analysis programs that incorporate multi mics arrays.
I assume even the deepest gear for bass isn't too terribly complicated in comparison. I imagine many sub menues and access to all parameters for each effect as well as routing options (which effects come in what order inside the box) . Is this what you mean by "deep"?

If so, learning new toys is half the fun, though I want this for a more simple roll.
Being able to drastically change my tone on the fly.

I think any of the units you mentioned will let me do this, but the more control the better imo.
I dont think I want to spend $1800 on a box though. It speaks to the knob tweeker in me, but ive learned that I'll wind up spending more time twiddling parameters than playing. A.D.D. is a "B"!

So I guess I am narrowing it down after all. Something in the middle of both price and depth of features.

The line 6 stuff seems to be a pretty common and popular choice. I'm not after their flagship , but maybe 1 step down. What other units would you consider comparable at a similar price point ?

Ps. I did think of something else I'd like to have in the box. Nice filters. Something where I can adjust the cut-off and peak of the resonace. That would be handy. I've found cheap filters sound really bad, especially when pushing the res.
 
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The Helix models are quite good, easily Pro quality in my humble opinion. It is also my opinion that the HX Effects is infinitely superior to the Stomp. Only a small advantage in technical terms, (additional effects loop, 2nd expression input, and one more block than the stomp) but the User interface is where the HX FX truly outshines the Stomp. Sure there's more switches, but, SCRIBBLE STRIPS, the Scribble strips are invaluable. Programming and creating patches on the HX FX is the best. Never hook mine up to the computer except for firmware updates. The Scribble strips present so much information, I will never be without a similar feature in my Multieffect, in any foreseeable future.
 
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The Helix models are quite good, easily Pro quality in my humble opinion. It is also my opinion that the HX Effects is infinitely superior to the Stomp. Only a small advantage in technical terms, (additional effects loop, 2nd expression input, and one more block than the stomp) but the User interface is where the HX FX truly outshines the Stomp. Sure there's more switches, but, SCRIBBLE STRIPS, the Scribble strips are invaluable. Programming and creating patches on the HX FX is the best. Never hook mine up to the computer except for firmware updates. The Scribble strips present so much information, I will never be without a similar feature in my Multieffect, in any foreseeable future.
I watched a video yesterday about the scribble feature but I didn't retain the information very well.

Would you mind explaining it in a simple way?
 
I watched a video yesterday about the scribble feature but I didn't retain the information very well.

Would you mind explaining it in a simple way?

The Scribble strips, (also on the Helix Floor model) are small screens above 6 of the switches. They display a wide variety of information, depending on the mode you are in. One great feature is "spill". Whereby you can select one model to display all it's parameters across multiple Scribble Strips.
 
The Scribble strips, (also on the Helix Floor model) are small screens above 6 of the switches. They display a wide variety of information, depending on the mode you are in. One great feature is "spill". Whereby you can select one model to display all it's parameters across multiple Scribble Strips.
Thanks. I'll need to go watch more videos to really soak everything in.
It sounds like they've opened the flood gates on what we can do. I haven't used mutlis in a VERY long time and they are light years ahead of the ancient boss units I did use. I have a lot of catching up to do it seems
 
Well, the answer is in posts # 2 and # 3.

I’m just here to join in saying the HX stomp is the way, and affordable all things considered… I like it! They’re cheaper now than they were a year ago believe it or not. Just add a pedalnetics 4/5 switch like I did or any other switch and you have a stomp XL in a smaller package.

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Well, the answer is in posts # 2 and # 3.

I’m just here to join in saying the HX stomp is the way, and affordable all things considered… I like it! They’re cheaper now than they were a year ago believe it or not. Just add a pedalnetics 4/5 switch like I did and any other switch and you have a stomp XL in a smaller package.

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I almost bought a used stomp at guitar center today for $450. I would have if the screen was so scratched up. Maybe I can get them to lower the price. I really want the next step up though, I think. I'm kinda torn between the Stomp and hx fx. I'm even considering the full helix now. Lots of buttons and a pedal. Plus more screen space.
 
I almost bought a used stomp at guitar center today for $450. I would have if the screen was so scratched up. Maybe I can get them to lower the price. I really want the next step up though, I think. I'm kinda torn between the Stomp and hx fx. I'm even considering the full helix now. Lots of buttons and a pedal. Plus more screen space.

I have no experience with the hx fx, but IMO I’d either go stomp with extra 2 buttons or maybe a LT? It’s a lot, but obviously useable for bass. Do you play guitar as well? If so, then the LT or floor model makes sense!

honestly, a stomp is more than enough for bass. I went down the same path last year and I’m glad I grabbed a stomp instead of a bunch of pedals… I think? Yeah so far… I just have to remind myself :smug:
 
I almost bought a used stomp at guitar center today for $450. I would have if the screen was so scratched up. Maybe I can get them to lower the price. I really want the next step up though, I think. I'm kinda torn between the Stomp and hx fx. I'm even considering the full helix now. Lots of buttons and a pedal. Plus more screen space.
HX FX does not have the amp and cab models if that matters to you.
 
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