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Music Man StingRay Club | PART FIVE

I had them all ...and my very fav and the one I keep forever is my 20th anni SR5 HS.
I love the Single on its own as a great rock, Blues ,RnB sound



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Wow, is that ... binding? ... on the body?! :woot:

I guess that was a 20th anniversary feature?
 
What's up with the headstock and body paint ? Was this bass originally a vintage type burst finish?
Looks like your favorite well broken in blue jeans. :thumbsup:

Wow, is that ... binding? ... on the body?! :woot:

I guess that was a 20th anniversary feature?

I was always afraid all you guys would lynch me...
Because this is how it used to look.....:eek:

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Most in the Stingray threads probably know I have two Stingrays already and occassionally dream about adding a third, possibly a Classic 5 or a 2008-2017 alnico 5 to synergize with my 2007 ceramic 5HH and my 2019 Special 5HH. Lately I've been thinking about doing something else but wanted to get some opinions from the "experts" here.

My band leader is booking more festivals and other outdoor shows for the summer months, which is fine with me. However, pop up thunderstorms are always a possibility. So, with four outdoor gigs already scheduled this year plus a few more that our BL is working on, I'm thinking of adding an inexpensive beater bass since I already have a backup amp and backup cabs that I'd be willing to take if the weather looked questionable. And the reason I came to the experts here? Obviously I'm considering a Sterling By Musicman Stingray 5. :D

I've seen reviews/demos on YouTube and read posts here on TB that make think they'd be a pretty safe bet. But I figured I'd ask those who have an SBMM or an SBMM Sub, and especially those who also have USA MM basses, what their impressions are. Since I'd consider this a beater and would prefer to keep the price under $500, I'd probably not buy a new SBMM Ray35. I might get a used one if I can find a deal, but I'd more likely lean toward a new SBMM Sub. Either way, I don't expect a bass in this price range to rival my two USA SR5's or my other USA made basses. But as long as it's able to get through a gig and give me reasonable sound I think I'll do it. Some of the things that I've seen that make me hesitate are reports that the spacing at the bridge on the 5's is even narrower than on the USA 5 (16.5mm as opposed ot 17.5mm) and that the pickups are unusually hot and can distort when your volume is close to max, especially with the bass boosted. Thereare ways to deal with the hot pickup, but the even narrower spacing is a minor concern.

FWIW, some others I've considered are:
- Yamaha BB235 - A passive PJ, just to get something different from what I typically use
- Squier Classic Vibe Jazz 5 - I do like Jazz basses but never really had a a passive Jazz before
- Peavey BXP 5 - Maybe a Millenium, Grind, or Foundation).
I kind of like the idea of doing something different, and doing it with an inexpensive beater is a way to do that with minimal guilt. But I also have a tough time straying from Stingrays.

Anyway, thoughts on the SBMMs and SBMM Subs?
 
I had them all ...and my very fav and the one I keep forever is my 20th anni SR5 HS.
I love the Single on its own as a great rock, Blues ,RnB sound



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I was always afraid all you guys would lynch me...
Because this is how it used to look.....:eek:

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You are darn right you're keeping it forever after doing that to it. :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
You made it your own, that's for sure !!!

This is worse than the guy that bought the BFR Fuschia Sparkle StingRay Special because it was so light weight and immediately had it refinished black.:rollno:

Both of you need to line up and let us all give you a swift kick in the hind part. :D
 
Most in the Stingray threads probably know I have two Stingrays already and occassionally dream about adding a third, possibly a Classic 5 or a 2008-2017 alnico 5 to synergize with my 2007 ceramic 5HH and my 2019 Special 5HH. Lately I've been thinking about doing something else but wanted to get some opinions from the "experts" here.

My band leader is booking more festivals and other outdoor shows for the summer months, which is fine with me. However, pop up thunderstorms are always a possibility. So, with four outdoor gigs already scheduled this year plus a few more that our BL is working on, I'm thinking of adding an inexpensive beater bass since I already have a backup amp and backup cabs that I'd be willing to take if the weather looked questionable. And the reason I came to the experts here? Obviously I'm considering a Sterling By Musicman Stingray 5. :D

I've seen reviews/demos on YouTube and read posts here on TB that make think they'd be a pretty safe bet. But I figured I'd ask those who have an SBMM or an SBMM Sub, and especially those who also have USA MM basses, what their impressions are. Since I'd consider this a beater and would prefer to keep the price under $500, I'd probably not buy a new SBMM Ray35. I might get a used one if I can find a deal, but I'd more likely lean toward a new SBMM Sub. Either way, I don't expect a bass in this price range to rival my two USA SR5's or my other USA made basses. But as long as it's able to get through a gig and give me reasonable sound I think I'll do it. Some of the things that I've seen that make me hesitate are reports that the spacing at the bridge on the 5's is even narrower than on the USA 5 (16.5mm as opposed ot 17.5mm) and that the pickups are unusually hot and can distort when your volume is close to max, especially with the bass boosted. Thereare ways to deal with the hot pickup, but the even narrower spacing is a minor concern.

FWIW, some others I've considered are:
- Yamaha BB235 - A passive PJ, just to get something different from what I typically use
- Squier Classic Vibe Jazz 5 - I do like Jazz basses but never really had a a passive Jazz before
- Peavey BXP 5 - Maybe a Millenium, Grind, or Foundation).
I kind of like the idea of doing something different, and doing it with an inexpensive beater is a way to do that with minimal guilt. But I also have a tough time straying from Stingrays.

Anyway, thoughts on the SBMMs and SBMM Subs?
I say splurge and buy the new BFR Satin HoneyBurst 5H and use one of your others as your beater!!!:roflmao:

Seriously , a used SBMM should do the trick.
 
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Most in the Stingray threads probably know I have two Stingrays already and occassionally dream about adding a third, possibly a Classic 5 or a 2008-2017 alnico 5 to synergize with my 2007 ceramic 5HH and my 2019 Special 5HH. Lately I've been thinking about doing something else but wanted to get some opinions from the "experts" here.

My band leader is booking more festivals and other outdoor shows for the summer months, which is fine with me. However, pop up thunderstorms are always a possibility. So, with four outdoor gigs already scheduled this year plus a few more that our BL is working on, I'm thinking of adding an inexpensive beater bass since I already have a backup amp and backup cabs that I'd be willing to take if the weather looked questionable. And the reason I came to the experts here? Obviously I'm considering a Sterling By Musicman Stingray 5. :D

I've seen reviews/demos on YouTube and read posts here on TB that make think they'd be a pretty safe bet. But I figured I'd ask those who have an SBMM or an SBMM Sub, and especially those who also have USA MM basses, what their impressions are. Since I'd consider this a beater and would prefer to keep the price under $500, I'd probably not buy a new SBMM Ray35. I might get a used one if I can find a deal, but I'd more likely lean toward a new SBMM Sub. Either way, I don't expect a bass in this price range to rival my two USA SR5's or my other USA made basses. But as long as it's able to get through a gig and give me reasonable sound I think I'll do it. Some of the things that I've seen that make me hesitate are reports that the spacing at the bridge on the 5's is even narrower than on the USA 5 (16.5mm as opposed ot 17.5mm) and that the pickups are unusually hot and can distort when your volume is close to max, especially with the bass boosted. Thereare ways to deal with the hot pickup, but the even narrower spacing is a minor concern.

FWIW, some others I've considered are:
- Yamaha BB235 - A passive PJ, just to get something different from what I typically use
- Squier Classic Vibe Jazz 5 - I do like Jazz basses but never really had a a passive Jazz before
- Peavey BXP 5 - Maybe a Millenium, Grind, or Foundation).
I kind of like the idea of doing something different, and doing it with an inexpensive beater is a way to do that with minimal guilt. But I also have a tough time straying from Stingrays.

Anyway, thoughts on the SBMMs and SBMM Subs?

SBMM are solid but I always found the single pickup ones better.

A Yamaha BB would be great too.
 
Most in the Stingray threads probably know I have two Stingrays already and occassionally dream about adding a third, possibly a Classic 5 or a 2008-2017 alnico 5 to synergize with my 2007 ceramic 5HH and my 2019 Special 5HH. Lately I've been thinking about doing something else but wanted to get some opinions from the "experts" here.

My band leader is booking more festivals and other outdoor shows for the summer months, which is fine with me. However, pop up thunderstorms are always a possibility. So, with four outdoor gigs already scheduled this year plus a few more that our BL is working on, I'm thinking of adding an inexpensive beater bass since I already have a backup amp and backup cabs that I'd be willing to take if the weather looked questionable. And the reason I came to the experts here? Obviously I'm considering a Sterling By Musicman Stingray 5. :D

I've seen reviews/demos on YouTube and read posts here on TB that make think they'd be a pretty safe bet. But I figured I'd ask those who have an SBMM or an SBMM Sub, and especially those who also have USA MM basses, what their impressions are. Since I'd consider this a beater and would prefer to keep the price under $500, I'd probably not buy a new SBMM Ray35. I might get a used one if I can find a deal, but I'd more likely lean toward a new SBMM Sub. Either way, I don't expect a bass in this price range to rival my two USA SR5's or my other USA made basses. But as long as it's able to get through a gig and give me reasonable sound I think I'll do it. Some of the things that I've seen that make me hesitate are reports that the spacing at the bridge on the 5's is even narrower than on the USA 5 (16.5mm as opposed ot 17.5mm) and that the pickups are unusually hot and can distort when your volume is close to max, especially with the bass boosted. Thereare ways to deal with the hot pickup, but the even narrower spacing is a minor concern.

FWIW, some others I've considered are:
- Yamaha BB235 - A passive PJ, just to get something different from what I typically use
- Squier Classic Vibe Jazz 5 - I do like Jazz basses but never really had a a passive Jazz before
- Peavey BXP 5 - Maybe a Millenium, Grind, or Foundation).
I kind of like the idea of doing something different, and doing it with an inexpensive beater is a way to do that with minimal guilt. But I also have a tough time straying from Stingrays.

Anyway, thoughts on the SBMMs and SBMM Subs?

Another option would be a G&L Tribute L series
G&L's Tribute series get the same electronics that the USA models do, and with the L-series you get the added bonus that if things go wonky you can play it in passive mode and still have 2 band EQ

G&L Tribute Series L-2500 2020s - Tobacco Sunburst | Reverb
 
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I was always afraid all you guys would lynch me...
Because this is how it used to look.....:eek:

View attachment 5075399
Yeah, I wasn't sure I ever remember seeing them in anything but the reddish burst. But I was just a happy owner at the time they came out and not the fanatic I've been becoming recently, so I didn't know exactly how they were offered. :D

Lynch you? Of course not. I might look at you briefly with some righteous condemnation, but only briefly. As @LadyLoveStingRay5 said, you DID make it your own, and there's nothing wrong with that (not much anyway. ;) :laugh:) Enjoy! :bassist:
 
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I say splurge and buy the new BFR Satin HoneyBurst 5H and use one of your others as your beater!!!:roflmao:

Seriously , a used SBMM should do the trick.
Exactly the response I'd expect from you. In a good way. :)

SBMM are solid but I always found the single pickup ones better.

A Yamaha BB would be great too.
That one probably got more of my attention than the other non-SBMM basses simply because I'm intrigued by the PJ. Price is right, too.

Another option would be a G&L Tribute L series
G&L's Tribute series get the same electronics that the USA models do, and with the L-series you get the added bonus that if things go wonky you can play it in passive mode and still have 2 band EQ

G&L Tribute Series L-2500 2020s - Tobacco Sunburst | Reverb
I'm glad you mentioned a Tribute. I was thinking about them when I first got this idea but then I forgot about them. I know we've discussed our G&L's before and if Musicman didn't exist, I could easily own a few G&L's. I'm still leaning Stingray, but a Tribute L-2500 or, maybe better still, an M-2500 (to complement my L-2500) would do nicely as well.
 
I'm glad you mentioned a Tribute. I was thinking about them when I first got this idea but then I forgot about them. I know we've discussed our G&L's before and if Musicman didn't exist, I could easily own a few G&L's. I'm still leaning Stingray, but a Tribute L-2500 or, maybe better still, an M-2500 (to complement my L-2500) would do nicely as well.[/QUOTE]

I've got two L series G&L at this point and 2 SR5's

I like them all - as they are all a little different. If I had to pick one bass and sell all the others it would be by original EBMM SR5 HH.
 
I've got two L series G&L at this point and 2 SR5's

I like them all - as they are all a little different. If I had to pick one bass and sell all the others it would be by original EBMM SR5 HH.

Agreed. I love my L-2500 but, yeah, my Stingrays are the top choice.

Actually, I've been playing my Stingrays a lot lately and, even though I've been bringing my L-2500 as the second bass, I've been sticking with whichever Stingray I brought for the whole gig. So, for tomorrow afternoon's gig, I'm purposely bringing the L-2500 and WILL use it for two sets. Not sure which Stingray I'll bring for the second bass, but I'll use it for the other two sets.

EDIT: @jefff100 Not sure how close you are to Medford, but tomorrow's gig is at the Flying W airport at their famous airplane-shaped pool. C'mon on out! :D

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edit: tl;dr - What are the wiring colours of white, black, green and red for on the stock MM neodymium pickup in a EMBB short scale Stingray? ;)

Hi there Stingray people. I've recently bought a 2nd hand EBMM Stingray short scale (2020 model in vintage sunburst), fitted by a previous owner with a John East MMSR 3 band preamp. It's been a long time dream to own an American made Ray, and being a fan of short scale (and light weight) basses I'm loving everything about it... except I'm getting what can only be described as exactly the same kind of hum I get from a single-coil instrument.

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In case anyone ever gets a similar issue, I'll just record here for posterity that with a pointer from John East I've been able to diagnose and resolve the problem. Essentially the original wiring from the pickup to the pre-amp had been done incorrectly.

It turns out the wiring colours in the USA EBMM short scale Stingray match the colours used for Sterling basses which I found on a TalkBass post here - Neck coil: Green (hot) and White, Bridge coil: Black (hot) and Red. It seems the original owner/modder had mixed up the neck coil wires, so up to now I guess that coil had been connected with the polarity reversed.

Obviously having one coil with the incorrect polarity had prevented the pickup's usual hum cancelling ability from working, and had also significantly reduced the overall volume output at the same time. Anyway, all working perfectly now, and a big thank you to John East for some great advice and pointing me in the right direction (i.e. confirming it was definitely the pickup which was the source of the hum and nothing to do with shielding!)