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My Crown XLS 1000 is in!!
- Thread starter pgbassman
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Thanks to all for the guidance...I've gone with the XTI 2000. It's only 12 lbs heavier than the xls and by all accounts should give me what I need in both power and performance. While the verdict is still out on the XLS my suggestion would be to go with the 1500, 2000 or 2500 model the extra headroom will serve you well.
where do you get 12lbs? crown says its under 17lbs on their site. I hope that was right because mine is with UPS right now being delivered. I dont want a 25lb monster.
The Crown site lists both net weight and shipping weight, and I suspect that caused some confusion. You're right that the XTi is around 17 pounds net.
My oversight... yes, the 6000 is 24 pounds, the rest are 18.5 pounds.
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XLS 1000 was 7.5 lbs my xti 2000 weighs 19lbs on my scale so I averaged up to 12 lbs. Still very easy to move and fits nicely in shallow rack.
my XLS1500 DriveCore runs in 2CH INPUT-Y / XOVER MODE to 300w@8 Gallien-Kruger 2x10 BLX + 525w@4 MarkBass 4x10 104HF
sounds great....i use a Radial D2 to get BALANCED cables for optimal input signal strength and hum/noise reduction...
very nice amp really, tho agreed the XTi is a stup UP....
it does feel a little shallow in the power area...i also wish i had gotten more power...but who doesnt feel that way, besides id prob blow my cabs
i use Active Ibanez basses and a Line6 Bass PODxt Live in front
sounds great....i use a Radial D2 to get BALANCED cables for optimal input signal strength and hum/noise reduction...
very nice amp really, tho agreed the XTi is a stup UP....
it does feel a little shallow in the power area...i also wish i had gotten more power...but who doesnt feel that way, besides id prob blow my cabs
i use Active Ibanez basses and a Line6 Bass PODxt Live in front
If I understand everyone's advice, if I have a speaker with a program rating of 800 watts (400 watts continuous), then powering it with a Crown XLS DriveCore 1500 in bridged mono mode pushing 1050 watts would be preferable to the XLS 1000 pushing only 700 watts in bridged mono mode. Is this correct? If I go with the 1500, should I use the peak limiter to provide some protection against overpowering the speaker?
I'm using an XLS 1500 bridged into my LDS 15/6.5 cab, and I'm glad I didn't go with the 1000. If a preamp has low output, I'm thinking even the 1500 could potentially run out of steam in louder situations. I think it will be fine for my needs.
I haven't touched the peak limiter on my power amp. (In other words, the peak limiter is set as it was from the factory.) I can't say I've noticed it negatively affecting my tone. I'm also using a high pass filter at 50Hz which seems to work nicely.
Should be great for that - it even looks like it has a pair of RCA inputs (not all "pro" amps do).
I have a question guys, I have a 4 ohm Aguilar GS212... The XLS 1000 is rated 1100 watts at 4 ohms. Would the 1000 be enough for me or should I get the 1500???
I was really bummed by pgbassman's initial report that the XLS 1000 wasn't performing for him as expected.
I ended up calling Crown and discussed this thread/issue with a tech there who was in disbelief. We discussed my needs and he highly suggested the XLS 1000 for me. I play high-volume rock and run 2 Ampeg SVT-410 cabs with a 4-ohm total load, running mono-bridged.
Let me tell you, I said "What have I got to lose?" Free shipping, no tax, 45-days to try it, and a 15% off coupon code later, I had me an Crown XLS 1000 for $265 and the thing is ABSOLUTELY KILLER!
Plenty of power, dead-quiet fan, runs cool all night long, fits shallow-depth racks, and weighs 8-pounds. I could not be happier (and I DO NOT work for Crown)
I also explored the Peavey IPR 1600 before my purchase and found that it could not be mono-bridged. For my money, my choice is with Crown and I'm so happy I gave the XLS 1000 a chance!
I ended up calling Crown and discussed this thread/issue with a tech there who was in disbelief. We discussed my needs and he highly suggested the XLS 1000 for me. I play high-volume rock and run 2 Ampeg SVT-410 cabs with a 4-ohm total load, running mono-bridged.
Let me tell you, I said "What have I got to lose?" Free shipping, no tax, 45-days to try it, and a 15% off coupon code later, I had me an Crown XLS 1000 for $265 and the thing is ABSOLUTELY KILLER!
Plenty of power, dead-quiet fan, runs cool all night long, fits shallow-depth racks, and weighs 8-pounds. I could not be happier (and I DO NOT work for Crown)
I also explored the Peavey IPR 1600 before my purchase and found that it could not be mono-bridged. For my money, my choice is with Crown and I'm so happy I gave the XLS 1000 a chance!
The IPR's can be bridged, just ~manually. I'm guessing cost is why they didn't incorporate it into the design.
Loop both inputs together, then use +1 output from channel A, -1 output from channel B.
I have an F-2B preamp (like the OP), and I just recently tried the XLS2500 with it. My cabs are a pair of 4-ohm Acme B2's, and I run them each on their own channel of the power amp.
Between the input sensitivity (1.4V) of the Crown, and the low efficiency of the Acmes, and having to jumper the power amp inputs to acheive parallel mode from a single input (which I believe further reduces the output level), it just was not loud enough, so I returned the Crown to the store.
The Alembic F-2B is a great preamp (I've had mine for 28 years and I don't plan on changing it), but I think a power amp with an input sensitivity of 0.775V is a neccessity for use with the F-2B.
So after trying the Crown XLS2500 and having to return it, I'm back to using my Carver PM1400. The Carver seems to be very well matched with the F-2B, with its input sensitivity reconfigured for 0.775V (I changed it myself the moment I unpacked it), and also its unbalanced input impedance of 25K ohms (most amps these days are just 10K for the unbalanced inputs). I just wish the Carver wasn't so deep, because the F-2B's power switch and output jacks are too hard to get to when it's in the deep rack with the Carver.
I'd like to find a shallow power amp with an input sensitivity of 0.775V. The only amp that I've found that is close to that is the Carvin DCM1540L with it's input sensitivity of 1V, but I've yet to try that one. Are there any other 'shallow' power amps out there with an input sensitivity of 0.775V or 1V?
Between the input sensitivity (1.4V) of the Crown, and the low efficiency of the Acmes, and having to jumper the power amp inputs to acheive parallel mode from a single input (which I believe further reduces the output level), it just was not loud enough, so I returned the Crown to the store.
The Alembic F-2B is a great preamp (I've had mine for 28 years and I don't plan on changing it), but I think a power amp with an input sensitivity of 0.775V is a neccessity for use with the F-2B.
So after trying the Crown XLS2500 and having to return it, I'm back to using my Carver PM1400. The Carver seems to be very well matched with the F-2B, with its input sensitivity reconfigured for 0.775V (I changed it myself the moment I unpacked it), and also its unbalanced input impedance of 25K ohms (most amps these days are just 10K for the unbalanced inputs). I just wish the Carver wasn't so deep, because the F-2B's power switch and output jacks are too hard to get to when it's in the deep rack with the Carver.
I'd like to find a shallow power amp with an input sensitivity of 0.775V. The only amp that I've found that is close to that is the Carvin DCM1540L with it's input sensitivity of 1V, but I've yet to try that one. Are there any other 'shallow' power amps out there with an input sensitivity of 0.775V or 1V?
- Feb 16, 2008
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Hey everybody...dont know if anyone has seen my post but i need some help. I need an amp for my Aguilar Tone Hammer and my choices were a use GK MB2-500 or a Crown XLS 1000. Ive never tried a preamp/ power amp setup before so im not sure how the Crown would perform. But i have tried my TH through the effects send of the MB2 and it sounds fantastic, alot better the the MB2's preamp section. i have a 4 ohm Aguilar GS212 as my cab. im going strictly lightweight and dont want a heavey power amp. Thanks in advance.
Thanks, I'll look into that one. I'm concerned about the lower unbalanced input impedance of 7.5K ohms, though, because Alembic recommends that the power amp chosen should have an input impedance of no less than 10K ohms.
Thanks, I hadn't considered that.rpsands said:
Also, sorry for the hijack.
