Unless, of course, the rehearsal space is tiny and up or down several flights of stairs, in which case you'd look pretty smart.
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My guitar Player is Drowning Me
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A little of this stuff really does go a long way. Why punish yourself with volume that is clearly excessive for the conditions?
woah, where did i say everyone should play loud? i believe ive made it clear on multiple posts that everyone has an opinion and prefers different things - and that i respect those opinions. i believe you are the one saying everyone should adhere to certain parameters. when i jam with the blues band i play much quieter than i do with the post-metal project. so i like both worlds.
something about "feeling" the music in a certain setting that just floats my boat- as well as many on this thread. a tube amp dimed out just speaks to me- but again this is all personal preference and a group/band decision.
I can't read back through the arguing to see if this was mentioned, buuuuut...have you tried the Sunn head plugged into an appropriate bass cab? It's a pretty cool retro sound. And these are not tube Sunn Colesuems/1200's either, they are loud-ish solid state heads but not what perhaps most are thinking. If you are playing aggressive rock, and you got an SVT and a fridge, youd kick the crap out of the guitarist volume and tone wise. Not that it's a contest, but sometimes part of the point IS to be loud, and if it is for you, then get a serious rig..
oh yeah and try this, "Hey man, can you turn down a bit, your amp sounds siiiick brahhhhhh, but it is much louder than mine, and we'll sound better that way".
oh yeah and try this, "Hey man, can you turn down a bit, your amp sounds siiiick brahhhhhh, but it is much louder than mine, and we'll sound better that way".
is this a joke? rock and roll is all about pushing equipment to the limits.
"almost always", so you're saying that sometimes it works to dime you amp, so who gets to decide when dimming an amp is ok or not?
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2400 watts with those cabs. 3800 possible lol.
There is no problem if everyone around you is into that. But this thread is about someone seeking an escape from that.
They don't care if your amp speaks to you when fed enough power and takes life, they just want a solution to speak to a band mate about excessive volume in their own mix.
There is a problem though with what you advocate, a really big one - but if all the advice and warnings in this thread and on these forums hasn't grabbed your attention yet.....
Really? I always thought it was about teen-age angst, mating rituals, and making people want to dance.
YMMV means just that. Genius can turn up anywhere. However, the least imaginative way to use an amp is running it to 11.
Pushing equipment to its limits was all you COULD do in the early days of rock-n-roll. And there are a LOT of terrible recordings that prove it.
I know right? Why do amps even HAVE knobs, they should just go to 10 when you turn them on!
Sound Pressure Level - an indicator of the speaker and cabinet efficiency at converting electrical signals into moving air.
One of the most efficient bass speaker cabinets is the DR250.
DR250
106dB SPL average sensitivity at 1m/1W
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10 dB is roughly 10 times the previous power.
1 W => 10 W ; 116 dB SPL
10W => 100 W ; 126 dB SPL (this is approaching hearing damage levels!)
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One of the most efficient bass speaker cabinets is the DR250.
DR250
106dB SPL average sensitivity at 1m/1W
. . . .
10 dB is roughly 10 times the previous power.
1 W => 10 W ; 116 dB SPL
10W => 100 W ; 126 dB SPL (this is approaching hearing damage levels!)
. . . .
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My guitar Player is Drowning Me
When a guitar player or a drummer gets too loud then I stop playing and plug my ears ... sooner or later they get the message. And if that does not work then I turn off my amp and pack up and leave.
I used to turn up louder myself but I don't fight volume wars anymore, because the loser is my ears.
When a guitar player or a drummer gets too loud then I stop playing and plug my ears ... sooner or later they get the message. And if that does not work then I turn off my amp and pack up and leave.
I used to turn up louder myself but I don't fight volume wars anymore, because the loser is my ears.
that is actually a great idea. I may build that in as an option when I place my Dunwich order.
Overkill it's all overkill,no reason to turn it into a who's louder contest,ever heard of DYNAMICS...
Overkill it's all overkill,no reason to turn it into a who's louder contest,ever heard of DYNAMICS...
DYNAMICS!?! What kind of crapola is that?
the way I see it if your bandmate(s) play too loud for your liking you have a few options.
1. ask them to turn down.
2. get louder yourself.
3. leave the band.
it's pretty simple.
1. ask them to turn down.
2. get louder yourself.
3. leave the band.
it's pretty simple.
I have played with some pretty hard-hitting drummers, but there has always been more than enough amperage firepower in the room to render the drummer absolutely inaudible if we didn't exercise a little restraint.
I fail to see the point of burying the drummer in rehearsal, or any other member of the band for that matter, regardless of genre or how hard you think you have to rawk to be credible.
If you are listening for your band mates (as you should be) and having trouble hearing them, while simultaneously hearing yourself loud and clear, that is a problem. Levels need to be addressed. This often applies to stage volume as well, depending on room size and PA configuration.
If you don't listen and don't give a damn about hearing all your band mates, that is a problem. Do everyone a favor, quit the band thing and do a solo gig.
I fail to see the point of burying the drummer in rehearsal, or any other member of the band for that matter, regardless of genre or how hard you think you have to rawk to be credible.
If you are listening for your band mates (as you should be) and having trouble hearing them, while simultaneously hearing yourself loud and clear, that is a problem. Levels need to be addressed. This often applies to stage volume as well, depending on room size and PA configuration.
If you don't listen and don't give a damn about hearing all your band mates, that is a problem. Do everyone a favor, quit the band thing and do a solo gig.
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