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#261
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Just stumbled up on this. Im not going to lie, my first reaction was "come on going to the hospital just for cramps?!?!" haha But then again I'm not an athlete and I'm not putting my body through these kinds of grinds so I wouldnt know the feeling. Either way guess the dude literally does leave it all on the court, deals with having nothing left AFTER the game. Thats pretty respectable right there.
 
#262
kesslari said:
We SF folks saw it from the other side in the World Series. In some critical way, experience at this level matters. I'd think "these guys have all been through so much, played so much ball at different levels, including getting to this point". And yet...
Like I said earlier, it's the playoffs. Stuff happens, amazing, weird stuff. And it still ain't over 'til it's over.
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Think of it like playing golf. When you play with your friends, you're relaxed, having fun. Then someone puts $5 on you making a putt. Maybe the first time it happens, you choke, but if it's a habit when you play with your friends, it probably gets easier, unless the bet goes up. Then lets say you make it on the Big Break on the Golf Channel. More pressure. Then you make the Nike Tour. More pressure. Then the PGA Tour and even more pressure. Then you're faced with a 6 ft putt for the US Open trophy. Intense pressure.

The tendency would be to become accustomed to the added pressure at each level and then feel it again as you advance or situations become extraordinary. Some people thrive on the pressure and can handle it quickly as it increases. Others take time to adjust. Some can't handle it at all.

That's why they play the games.


Syxz_ML said:
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Just stumbled up on this. Im not going to lie, my first reaction was "come on going to the hospital just for cramps?!?!" haha But then again I'm not an athlete and I'm not putting my body through these kinds of grinds so I wouldnt know the feeling. Either way guess the dude literally does leave it all on the court, deals with having nothing left AFTER the game. Thats pretty respectable right there.
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I just saw it myself. Incredible.

I was watching Ridiculousness one time and they had this famous skateboarder on there. They showed a clip of him on this huge half pipe going high in the air on one end and missing the ramp and coming down right on it. He was hurt pretty bad, but no broken bones. Then they show him coming out later for more stunts and stuff. The guy said, "I just told myself, I can be in pain tomorrow. People want to see me today."

Dellavedova seems to have the same attitude.
 
#264
Not much to add to what's already been said. I think GS would be crazy to continue not doubling James (even with the modest shooting percentage). True, he'd rack up even more assists, but at least they could change up the pace of the game, which is quite obviously not in their favor. A faster pace would likely cause the very shorthanded Cavs to tire quicker (this seems awfully obvious, yet Kerr hasn't tried it). Smart move finally putting David Lee in --having someone on the court who can score inside, what a novel idea!:D

I'm really looking forward to the game tonight. If the Cavs win again, James will be on the cusp of a monumental achievement.
 
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#265
Conspiracy theory fuel has been added.

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EA Games congratulates the winning Cavs.
 
#266
I think Cleveland has done a great job on transition defense. Every time I think GS is going to run off of a rebound, they don't. And when you look at the floor ahead of the ball, it's crowded with defenders. However, even when GS has had a chance at a fast break bucket, they miss and then there's nobody inside for the offensive rebound. You can run all day, but if you can't knock down the shots, the strategy fails.
 
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#267
All that it would have takes to change the outcome of the last two games is for Curry to have shot about 20% better. That alone would have been good for wins.

But the Cavs have defended him superbly, and frankly, he hasn't shot worth poop. Thompson didn't shoot very well either, last game.

If the Cavs keep shutting down the GS offense, they can take it. If Curry and Thompson warm up again, it's GS all the way.
 
#270
No horse in this race at all. I was cheering for the games more than anything but now a bit of the underdog syndrome has seeped in. I'd love to see LeBron make history. I like him. I like that he's a student of the game and that he seems to be a good guy ( leaving team jumping thoughts aside, of course - as fans are extremely passionate about that, I know )

At this point anyone but M.J. or Koby being seen as tops ( past and current ). I'm just sick to death of them. Call me a hater if you must, I just don't dig 'em as people at all.
 
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kesslari said:
Warriors seem to have found their tempo and are rocking it.
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Yeah what a difference it made for them not having to play from behind the whole game. Didn't get to see the game comfortably since I'm still currently at work unfortunately, but they seemed to play with more flow to their offense. Did the lineup change and going small have to do with it? Again i didnt get a chance to really watch it and analyze it. But going small did lead to Mozgov putting up big numbers. See what adjustments are made for next game on both sides.
 
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Syxz_ML said:
Yeah what a difference it made for them not having to play from behind the whole game. Didn't get to see the game comfortably since I'm still currently at work unfortunately, but they seemed to play with more flow to their offense. Did the lineup change and going small have to do with it? Again i didnt get a chance to really watch it and analyze it. But going small did lead to Mozgov putting up big numbers. See what adjustments are made for next game on both sides.
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The GS lineup definitely changed. They went with 3 guards, resulting in 39 minutes for Iguodala, and he had a monster game on both ends of the floor (22 pts., same as Curry). Meanwhile, Lee played 15 minutes while Bogut played for just 3 (racking up 3 fouls in the process).

GS also cut way back on the turnovers, and they doubled James a fair bit, forcing him to pass and thus speeding up the pace (Kerr must have read my post :D). Meanwhile, James really ran out of gas in the 4th quarter, missing FTs and dumping it off a lot. And forcing him to pass also turned out to be the right idea in that the supporting cast (other than Mozgov, who had a big night) failed to capitalize--Shumpert, Dellavedova, and Smith went a combined 7-for-35. Credit to GS' defense, of course, but those guys missed some wide-open shots, too.

It will be interesting to see what the Cavs can do to counter. They obviously don't have many options other than simply hitting more shots. But they do get 3 days' rest now.
 
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GregC said:
The GS lineup definitely changed. They went with 3 guards, resulting in 39 minutes for Iguodala, and he had a monster game on both ends of the floor (22 pts., same as Curry). Meanwhile, Lee played 15 minutes while Bogut played for just 3 (racking up 3 fouls in the process).

GS also cut way back on the turnovers, and they doubled James a fair bit, forcing him to pass and thus speeding up the pace (Kerr must have read my post :D). Meanwhile, James really ran out of gas in the 4th quarter, missing FTs and dumping it off a lot. And forcing him to pass also turned out to be the right idea in that the supporting cast (other than Mozgov, who had a big night) failed to capitalize--Shumpert, Dellavedova, and Smith went a combined 7-for-35. Credit to GS' defense, of course, but those guys missed some wide-open shots, too.

It will be interesting to see what the Cavs can do to counter. They obviously don't have many options other than simply hitting more shots. But they do get 3 days' rest now.
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Awesome thanks for the insight. Was wondering when they would try to double James and get the ball out of his hands. Looks like it might have worked. And I guess the small lineup did change the pace. Man if I wasnt getting off till possibly 3am id try to catch a late replay of the game lol Well 2-2 series, what more can anyone ask for :cool:
 
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GregC said:
The GS lineup definitely changed. They went with 3 guards, resulting in 39 minutes for Iguodala, and he had a monster game on both ends of the floor (22 pts., same as Curry). Meanwhile, Lee played 15 minutes while Bogut played for just 3 (racking up 3 fouls in the process).

GS also cut way back on the turnovers, and they doubled James a fair bit, forcing him to pass and thus speeding up the pace (Kerr must have read my post :D). Meanwhile, James really ran out of gas in the 4th quarter, missing FTs and dumping it off a lot. And forcing him to pass also turned out to be the right idea in that the supporting cast (other than Mozgov, who had a big night) failed to capitalize--Shumpert, Dellavedova, and Smith went a combined 7-for-35. Credit to GS' defense, of course, but those guys missed some wide-open shots, too.

It will be interesting to see what the Cavs can do to counter. They obviously don't have many options other than simply hitting more shots. But they do get 3 days' rest now.
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Agree. For whatever reason, Bogut is just simply god awful against the Cavs, and it's like they're playing 4 on 5 when he's in the game. I didn't watch the Warriors much during the regular season, but from their record I know he must have been better than that. I was so glad to find that Kerr had been reading our posts in this thread and sat Bogut's lumbering backside on the bench. They are a much better team with David Lee or other versions of small ball. Mozgov put up career numbers and has impressed me all series, but the Tattitude brothers looked lost most of the game and Mozgov's scoring won't be enough even if he does that again. The thing Kerr needs to hammer home with this lineup is that they can't let Thompson get his hands on every rebound - to me, that's the real danger of this strategy.

Iggy played absolutely lights out on both ends of the floor, and should get the game ball. I really like his game as an all around player. Livingston played well within what he can do off the bench, but if they ditch Bogut (which they should) they'll need one more bench player to step up.

Curry doesn't look like the league MVP at all in this series, but I bet if he plays smart team ball and the W's are able to win the series he won't care about that at all.


Funky Ghost said:
No horse in this race at all. I was cheering for the games more than anything but now a bit of the underdog syndrome has seeped in. I'd love to see LeBron make history. I like him. I like that he's a student of the game and that he seems to be a good guy ( leaving team jumping thoughts aside, of course - as fans are extremely passionate about that, I know )

At this point anyone but M.J. or Koby being seen as tops ( past and current ). I'm just sick to death of them. Call me a hater if you must, I just don't dig 'em as people at all.
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Pulling for the Cavs, but I agree and respect Lebron's game immensely. He's got a few annoying LeFlops here and there, but in general whines only a fraction of the amount that Kobe and MJ did. When he goes inside and heads for the rim, he may be looking for a foul but he's also putting his head down and bringing a lunch pail with him, and everybody on the floor knows it. He's also a ridiculous passing big man, and I always like that. More importantly, he's the least selfish of the three you mentioned. Last year I was happy to see the Heat shot down in flames by the Spurs because it was a team passing clinic versus the D-Wade flop-and-whine show and the guys playing team ball obliterated the one on one free throw parade approach. This year I'm pulling for the Dubs because I like Kerr and Curry and pretty much everything about the team except Bigfoot, but if LBJ manages to will the Cavs to win the series, I'll respect that and not be upset at all; if he manages that with love and Irving having gone out, I know I'll be witnessing history.
 
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Cavs ran out of gas which was a worry from the start of the series. GS going small wore them out and was a wise move. If the Cavs can get rest and stay healthy they still can do it but the road is allot longer now. They were one missed shot and missed putback from being 3-0. Injury will take them out right now and after LJ getting his head bashed by a camera I thought it was over. He is a beast for going thru that and going on.
 
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Chris Fitzgerald said:
I'm pulling for the Dubs because I like Kerr and Curry and pretty much everything about the team except Bigfoot, but if LBJ manages to will the Cavs to win the series, I'll respect that and not be upset at all; if he manages that with love and Irving having gone out, I know I'll be witnessing history.
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Well said, Chris. That about sums it up for me as well.
 
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Plenty of good stuff in Zach Lowe's lengthy dissection of Game 4: NBA Finals, Game 4: Attack of the Small-Ball Warriors «

Telling stats near the top: "On the surface, this was the ultimate “make or miss” game. Golden State nailed 24 of 45 uncontested shots, according to NBA.com. Harrison Barnes and Andre Iguodala nailed the open corner 3s they had missed in prior games, and Draymond Green coaxed in a few of those floaters Timofey Mozgov had previously obliterated — including a ferocious chest-to-chest and-1 in the second quarter.

The Cavs, meanwhile, went a frigid 6-of-29 on uncontested looks, emboldening the Warriors to take an extra step away from Matthew Dellavedova and Iman Shumpert in order to squeeze LeBron James."
 
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