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Naimish Bridges

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Hi,
I have a question,
is there any deadline to when I can place an order?
I'm interested in a 5'er, but not ready to place an order.
As well, when will these bridges be available?

thanks!
You're welcome.

I'd like to get all of the orders by the middle of next month, 02/15/09. I would, ideally, like to have orders for 100 bridges. If I could secure 85-90 orders by this time I would probably go ahead and start the machining.

If I have orders for say 60 or 70 bridges I could extend this deadline by perhaps two weeks. Of course I have to consider my manufacturers scheduling in these decisions. He can't just drop everything on a moments notice to concentrate on the bridges.

Once the orders are secured my guy promises me a (1) one month turn around. Then I'll need another two weeks for plating, shipping, sorting all the orders, and mailing them out to the customers.

As things stand now I plan on having bridges in everyone's hand by the end of March. If I have to exercise the two week flex time mentioned above, then no later than the middle of March.

I hope this answers your questions to your satisfaction. If there's anything else just let me know.

Thanks.
 
thank you. what are your thoughts on the (highly volatile/subjective) issue of sustain with a lower-mass aluminum bridge as compared to brass? im planning a neck thru fretless right now, and i'm wondering how it applies.

I have a Naimish on my personal fretless , it sounds fantastic . This bridge is quite massive and one reason it is made of aluminum and not brass . The aluminum sounds great !! All you really need to know :)

Pete
 
Hey All,

Back from Denver. I'll try and add some pictures to this post.

I'm shocked, amused, and more excited than I've ever been about the bridge.
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I've got a few more if anyone wants to see them.

I'm shocked that my cost has tripled from the last run, amused that I'm so naive as to not have known it, (Those of you that understand can all applaud while I take a bow).:rollno::rollno::rollno:
But I'm coming back from Denver with a much clearer understanding of how unique this bridge is. I'm excited about that.

Rick
 
Will your increased cost mean a hike in the retail prices up from the amounts stated earlier?

I'm very interested, just haven't committed yet. :)
I understand. Thanks for asking.

I'm sorry to say it but Absolutely. The Denver trip was very enlightening. I Plainly see the need to use a different approach.

Rick
 
Richard - email sent.

I am excited about your innovation and would like to aide you in getting these made; I am sure that there are many here that will say the same.

There are many minds here and we can work to get this done at a cost fair to us and a price that allows you to continue to innovate.
 
Could you elaborate a bit, please?
Yes. Thank you.

I'm clearly priced right out of the market.

I believe a market yet exists. I've managed to build a better mouse trap.

I acknowledge right up front my good fortune in stumbling blindly upon the simplest of ideas, that evidently no one had thought to try in fifty plus years of solid body electric stringed instruments using adjustable bridges.

I'm still 100% convinced that I've managed to build the best adjustable bridge available in the known universe. When you hear it you'll be convinced. Ask Pete Skjold.

Rick
 
I'm still 100% convinced that I've managed to build the best adjustable bridge available in the known universe.

I would definitely agree. After examining several other aftermarket bridges, yours is by far the simplest and best design. Even the 'ramped' bridges have a down side. The higher you set the ramp, the less contact area between the base and the upper adjustable piece. Your design is much more stable and consistent from string to string, no matter how much adjustment is used. Very simple and yet so effective. Bravo on 'stumbling' across this.
 
I am excited about your innovation and would like to aide you in getting these made; I am sure that there are many here that will say the same.

There are many minds here and we can work to get this done at a cost fair to us and a price that allows you to continue to innovate.

Ditto. I don't have any bright ideas right this second, but my specialty is solving this sort of commerce dilemma, so I will put my mind to it.

My first thought is that you may need to license the idea to a larger-scale manufacturer.
 
Yes. Thank you.

I'm clearly priced right out of the market.

I believe a market yet exists. I've managed to build a better mouse trap.

I acknowledge right up front my good fortune in stumbling blindly upon the simplest of ideas, that evidently no one had thought to try in fifty plus years of solid body electric stringed instruments using adjustable bridges.

I'm still 100% convinced that I've managed to build the best adjustable bridge available in the known universe. When you hear it you'll be convinced. Ask Pete Skjold.

Rick

This is my only endorsement . I own two Naimish bridges . One is on my personal fretless , the other is in safe keeping for the next five string I make myself . If I ever sell my fretless the bridge will come off as I will never sell it . I am currently trying to build two sixes for myself . I recently took the very early Lane Poor pickups out of my original prototype 92 so I could use them on one of my basses . If you know anything about Lane Poor Pickups , then you know what I am saying . These bridges are going to be expensive no matter what , but do you want them for the price you can get them for now or do you want to scoure ebay in ten years and pay a small fortune . This is one of those Items that comes along once in your lifetime . Sad to say , this may never really take off like so many other great ideas that meet this dilema . So If you want one , now is the time to help make it happen . Rick needs many orders to even make these at the cost he will be charging . I am hoping he gets them just so I can get some for myself ! I am going to be doing what I can to come up with the extra scratch to make it happen . It pains me to see such a good idea meet with such obstacles in getting produced . That is usually what happens when great things are produced .

Pete Skjold
 
I wonder if you could get a Federal small-business grant or loan of an amount sufficient to have a larger production run manufactured (at lower cost per unit). Your business is unusual in that you don't need a storefront, kitchen, loading dock, truck, oven, etc., so the usual expenses of starting and running a business are minimized. You probably wouldn't need any employees at this stage of the game either, meaning no wages or insurance costs. What I'm getting at is that you could invest nearly 100% of the monies granted or loaned to you into inventory. You'd have to do some serious math to determine the tipping point of the scale of operations, i.e. what quantity would you have to manufacture in order to get the cost per unit down to a level where the market would support you with purchases. If it was done with a grant then you'd obviously have some breathing room in terms of ROI timing, but if it was a loan you'd have to think about advertising and other competitive methods of moving the inventory in a timely fashion.

It boils down to this: at the scale you are producing them now, you are -as you said- priced out of the market, unless you are able to find 100 people willing/able to pay any price for your bridge. So that necessitates larger scale production. That takes investment money. Either you come up with the investment from somewhere, or you license the design to a manufacturer and accept whatever cut you can get from the deal.

There's a surprising amount of Federal money available for small businesses, although TBH a lot of it hinges on how many new jobs you are creating, which in your case is none (or very few).

I would ask around TB and your circle of friends to see if there is a business lawyer who would be willing to do some pro bono work to protect your design and personal interests while you shop the design to a larger manufacturer. It might seem like "selling out", but if you protect yourself with a tight contract this might be the best way to overcome your obstacles. If you stipulate that your name must be used in all promotional descriptions of the product, then even if Hipshot or whoever makes 95% of the profits, you will gain fame for your design, and that would almost certainly open doors for you to do custom work on the side and set your own rates for it.

Just thinking "out loud" here... stuff to mull over.
 
....Just thinking "out loud" here... stuff to mull over.

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http://www.butleraudio.com/

Hey bongomania,

Great suggestions, thank you. Some of these things I'm already looking into. One thing I will not even consider at this point is "....a larger manufacturer....".

Allow me to toot my own horn. I did some of the programming for B.K. Butler's Monad Power Amp pictured above. Mikey, my manufacturer, and I were the only ones B.K. would trust to turn out the quality product required in his fabulous designs. That working relationship/friendship is stronger than ever to this day. I require the same trust, and need of a quality product.

For those unenlightened please check out the Butler Audio web site link above. While you're there send him an email and tell him Naimish sent you and we want Bass Amps. :D

Rick
 
I have Butler designed amp and pre for my guitar, nice gear.
ON your pricing dioemna: maybe start up like henry ford - any color is available as long as its black, only pick one string size etc. to get best volumes on a simple design kind of philosophy...or do you need a tool to get it in the right production cost structure?

Michael
 
I have Butler designed amp and pre for my guitar, nice gear....
Absolutely. Now that guy is a genius.
ON your pricing dioemna: maybe start up like henry ford - any color is available as long as its black, only pick one string size etc. to get best volumes on a simple design kind of philosophy...or do you need a tool to get it in the right production cost structure?

Michael

Ouch! As the anti-capitalist from Detroit old Hank is a sore spot for me. Why aren't the wealthy held accountable?:crying:

I'm going to have to use the opposite approach than that of Mr. Ford. He started at the bottom and worked his way up. Everyone could afford to buy a Ford. I have to start at the top and work my way down. Unfortunately not everyone can afford to buy a Naimishbridge...yet.

Rick
 

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