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NCAA Football 2022

#301
FilterFunk said:
Thoughts on Deion accepting the Colorado job?

I was hoping he'd stay with Jackson State and continue to re-legitimize HBCU football.
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He's using Colorado as a stepping stone. I hope he's honest with everyone in Boulder about that.
I've never been a fan of the guy, and that started because he went to FSU. He was never better than Bo Jackson as the two sport athlete and Bo is a better person.

-Mike
 
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#302
gln1955 said:
Penn State v. Utah in the Rose Bowl. This should be a good one.

Playoff without 'Bama and with two BIG10 teams. I'll probably watch all of these games for a change.
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I'm pretty sure I heard that Joey Porter, Jr. won't be available for the bowl game for Penn State because he's preparing for the draft. That's a big loss in PSU's secondary. He might be the first cornerback taken.
 
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#305
MonetBass said:
All of the relevant transfer portal names (so far). College football transfer portal tracker: Latest news on who's in and out

Some of the bowl games could be a bit underwhelming depending on who teams have available.
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That's an insanely long list. Washington got looted last winter. I suspect some of the wideouts who left are kicking themselves a little. I don't like the transfer portal, but it is what it is now. It's one more thing coaching staffs have to deal with.
 
#307
MJ5150 said:
Clemson's Uiagalelei enters portal after benching.
There's the problem with the transfer portal. It lets pouting babies get their way. How about you stick around and try to improve yourself with some healthy competition rather than run off to some other school?

-Mike
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Agreed. I read that they're making some rule changes for the portal for next year so that this will happen less.
 
#308
MJ5150 said:
Clemson's Uiagalelei enters portal after benching.
There's the problem with the transfer portal. It lets pouting babies get their way. How about you stick around and try to improve yourself with some healthy competition rather than run off to some other school?

-Mike
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Or maybe Dabo had to the tough talk with him. You know, the same talk Saban has each year, even before the real portal came about. No one cares when the crying baby is the coach and their 5 star didn't pan out and they force them out. It comes back on the kid as the cry baby.

Or maybe the fans are the cry babies...?
 
#309
viper4000 said:
Or maybe Dabo had to the tough talk with him. You know, the same talk Saban has each year, even before the real portal came about. No one cares when the crying baby is the coach and their 5 star didn't pan out and they force them out. It comes back on the kid as the cry baby.

Or maybe the fans are the cry babies...?
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I don't follow where you're going with this. Elaborate please?

-Mike
 
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#311
viper4000 said:
I'll keep it to myself. Y'all can just keep calling these players pouting babies.
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Naw, you oughta elaborate. This is a conversation among friends. All opinions and thoughts are welcome among this group. These threads have gone on in here for the many years they have because all of us bring our own perspective to teams, conferences, games, situations, etc. None of us here are the authority on these matters, and no opinion carries more weight over others.
I'm not going to put words in your mouth and offer up my interpretation of what I think you're saying, but I would for sure like to know your perspective.

-Mike
 
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#312
MJ5150 said:
Naw, you oughta elaborate. This is a conversation among friends. All opinions and thoughts are welcome among this group. These threads have gone in here for the many years they have because all of us bring our own perspective to teams, conferences, games, situations, etc. None of us here are the authority on these matters, and no opinion carries more weight over others.
I'm not going to put words in your mouth and offer up my interpretation of what I think you're saying, but I would for sure like to know your perspective.

-Mike
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A lot of fans are quick to label a transferring player as a quitter or soft or a baby. We do not know what actually happens behind closed doors to initiate the move. If you've paid attention over the last 30 years, specifically with SEC, you'll know that players are encouraged to leave when the next shiny recruit comes along. It used to be called "processed out". It happened in other conferences too, but not like the SEC. And yes, now that players can make that decision for themselves without having to go to junior college, this appears to be happening more and more. And all I hear from older fans is how these kids quit.

Or consider coaches leaving for a new school before the contract is up. Are they the cry baby because they leave before the terms of the contract are up? Or are they a really smart person leveraging existing contracts and buyouts to maximize their earnings? But when a player does the same, they are cry babies.

I'll posit this. Who here has worked for a company they felt were a great fit for themselves? Then, 2 years in, a new person gets the open position above you. Do you buckle down and work really hard to compete for the next opening? Or do you brush up your resume and sell yourself to the next company? I would venture to guess the vast majority would look elsewhere. That is decidedly the best way to increase your salary and get promotions. And that is okay. It is okay in the business world. It is okay in the trades. It is okay in music. But as soon as we start talking about college athletics, all of a sudden, players having agency to choose is bad.
 
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#313
MJ5150 said:
Clemson's Uiagalelei enters portal after benching.
There's the problem with the transfer portal. It lets pouting babies get their way. How about you stick around and try to improve yourself with some healthy competition rather than run off to some other school?

-Mike
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I actually love it. Personality faults like that get exposed to an NFL franchise, and if they've done thier home work, will walk away. Then cry baby gets to wear a paper hat and a name badge where-ever they go hired at.
 
#314
Funky Ghost said:
I actually love it. Personality faults like that get exposed to an NFL franchise, and if they've done thier home work, will walk away. Then cry baby gets to wear a paper hat and a name badge where-ever they go hired at.
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Well, he sees the writing on the wall that the new kid was going to be the chosen one for Clemson, so why not pursue a chance to be a starter somewhere else? A similar thing happened at Penn State with Will Levis. It became apparent to everyone that Sean Clifford was quarterback for life, so he transferred to Kentucky and is now one of the draftable QBs this year. That never would have happened if he stayed at PSU.
 
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#315
viper4000 said:
A lot of fans are quick to label a transferring player as a quitter or soft or a baby. We do not know what actually happens behind closed doors to initiate the move. If you've paid attention over the last 30 years, specifically with SEC, you'll know that players are encouraged to leave when the next shiny recruit comes along. It used to be called "processed out". It happened in other conferences too, but not like the SEC. And yes, now that players can make that decision for themselves without having to go to junior college, this appears to be happening more and more. And all I hear from older fans is how these kids quit.

Or consider coaches leaving for a new school before the contract is up. Are they the cry baby because they leave before the terms of the contract are up? Or are they a really smart person leveraging existing contracts and buyouts to maximize their earnings? But when a player does the same, they are cry babies.

I'll posit this. Who here has worked for a company they felt were a great fit for themselves? Then, 2 years in, a new person gets the open position above you. Do you buckle down and work really hard to compete for the next opening? Or do you brush up your resume and sell yourself to the next company? I would venture to guess the vast majority would look elsewhere. That is decidedly the best way to increase your salary and get promotions. And that is okay. It is okay in the business world. It is okay in the trades. It is okay in music. But as soon as we start talking about college athletics, all of a sudden, players having agency to choose is bad.
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I'll play.

The main reason? They go into the situation with eyes wide open. Expectations are laid out and in the case of college sports, competition it guaranteed for your position every minute of every day you are on campus getting access to elite education and an open door, to a career with exceptional potential for riches. From the moment you agree, you accept the challenge and the notion that the face staring back at you in the mirror is responsible for every aspect of meeting the teams starting player model. Social, Physical, Mental and technical. The two main detractors are will power and maturity. At their age it's a hell of an ask. I never had that kind of pressure. I can't imagine what it's like for a marginal player let along a top guy. I do know, however, the odds are evenly stacked. ( you can't see this smirk... but it's there! ) The odds and by extension the "rules", are not the same, BUT everyone knows that so, again, the onus is on the individual. They can choose to jump ship as many times as that are allowed. But doing that has a stigma attached to it. The optics are bad.

I'll use your job analogy and throw it back at you.

You have two resume's They are nearly identical in experience. One has worked at the same place for 4 years. His boss says he's a nose down worker who grinds. Not the fastest or the best, but steady and reliable. The others 3 bosses say he's a good guy but just couldn't get comfortable. There was always "something". He has "potential" though.

Who you hiring?
 
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#316
gln1955 said:
Well, he sees the writing on the wall that the new kid was going to be the chosen one for Clemson, so why not pursue a chance to be a starter somewhere else? A similar thing happened at Penn State with Will Levis. It became apparent to everyone that Sean Clifford was quarterback for life, so he transferred to Kentucky and is now one of the draftable QBs this year. That never would have happened if he stayed at PSU.
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Point well made.
 
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