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#41
I did an octave up sound with my Line 6 M9 into a B7K with the gain cranked. I loved the result, but it can't be blended separately with dry signal due to the latency of the M9 (being digital) causing a phase issue.

I recorded them separately and it came out nice, but still working towards getting it all done live.

 
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#42
Fuller sound, octaves works for me, POG is very...well polyphonic, as it says on the tune, but with micro you can get a reasonable sub and super octave blend.

Loving my B7K at the moment, it really fills out the sound.

Patrick hunter did a nice demo



I got lucky and got a second hand half price pretty much!
 
#43
adamaarts said:
I did an octave up sound with my Line 6 M9 into a B7K with the gain cranked. I loved the result, but it can't be blended separately with dry signal due to the latency of the M9 (being digital) causing a phase issue.

I recorded them separately and it came out nice, but still working towards getting it all done live.

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Did you record the bass line with both pickups and the guitar parts with the bridge pickup?
 
#44
ferdinandstrat said:
Did you record the bass line with both pickups and the guitar parts with the bridge pickup?
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The bass part was both pickups. I did two tracks of guitars, one was 75% bridge pickup with the treble knob rolled back a bit. The other side was both pickups with the treble flat. I also adjusted some EQ on the B7k to help separate them, I can't remember what exactly I did there though.
 
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adamaarts said:
The bass part was both pickups. I did two tracks of guitars, one was 75% bridge pickup with the treble knob rolled back a bit. The other side was both pickups with the treble flat. I also adjusted some EQ on the B7k to help separate them, I can't remember what exactly I did there though.
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Is it possible to get a Stingray esque sound out of the bridge humbucker on my Jazz or is that just pointless?
 
#46
Been experimenting with the Radial BigShot ABY + Mooer Tender Octaver + Bass Big Muff (yes bass, thats what I had at home) + Joyo American or Joyo British.

So far I'm not very happy with the results, sounds like a sludgy mess specially if you play with fingers and not a pick. Also sounds like there is a haze in front of the tone (that could be because of the cheap distortion pedals) or maybe I need a fuzz that is not so aggressive. Other thing I notice that the Tender Octaver produces a tone that almost sounds like it has reverb on it.

Any tips?
 
#47
Erico Vinicius said:
Been experimenting with the Radial BigShot ABY + Mooer Tender Octaver + Bass Big Muff (yes bass, thats what I had at home) + Joyo American or Joyo British.

So far I'm not very happy with the results, sounds like a sludgy mess specially if you play with fingers and not a pick. Also sounds like there is a haze in front of the tone (that could be because of the cheap distortion pedals) or maybe I need a fuzz that is not so aggressive. Other thing I notice that the Tender Octaver produces a tone that almost sounds like it has reverb on it.

Any tips?
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Distortion wise I had great results with the Digitech Hardwire distortion(the orange one). As the for the octaver I'd get an EHX Pitchfork, I have two. One for the octave and one for a fifth above for the powerchord sound. They are cheap and do their job great. When distorted their tone is actually really convincing. If you have the money you can get the POG2 which is used by Mike Kerr cos it has a low pass filter, alternatively you could just get an EQ pedal.

As far as I am concerned EHX makes the best pitchshifters on the market.

Here's how my setup sounds running an EHX Switchblade+, Pitchfork into BIAS FX. The bass is a Modern Player Jazz Bass with only the bridge pickup active, I run it through a Zoom B3 with a Sansamp patch into EZMix:



Note that there actually 2 "guitar" tracks, both are the exact same dry signal but one is a British Crunch and the other is a Heavy fuzz.
 
#48
Erico Vinicius said:
Been experimenting with the Radial BigShot ABY + Mooer Tender Octaver + Bass Big Muff (yes bass, thats what I had at home) + Joyo American or Joyo British.

So far I'm not very happy with the results, sounds like a sludgy mess specially if you play with fingers and not a pick. Also sounds like there is a haze in front of the tone (that could be because of the cheap distortion pedals) or maybe I need a fuzz that is not so aggressive. Other thing I notice that the Tender Octaver produces a tone that almost sounds like it has reverb on it.

Any tips?
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I"d be willing to bet that part of your problem is going to be using an analog octaver. You need to go digital to get that RB sound - something from the POG family, a Pitchfork, or a Whammy.

The Joyo pedals are actually fairly well reviewed, but that Bass Big Muff is a hunk of junk - start off with getting rid of that, and you'll take another huge step forward.
 
#49
+1 for the above
Muff is OK but for me only as a gentle fuzz sitting in the mix.
A lot depends on what you need. If you are genuinely playing as a 2 piece then it's all about going whole hog, splitting signals, 2 amps etc. Remember Mike came across his sound almost by accident and it's a big board.
Someone who uses octave sound in a band brilliantly is Dug Pinnick. Check out his stuff, look at what Mike Kerr uses, Dusty from ZZ uses an octave but has a thumpinator to trim off bottom end, Billy Sheehan splits signals but loves his distortion too and you have the world of sub synth.

Experimenting is the key, but also quality kit.

For the record I use a POG and an EBS Octabass for a craving, POG high, other low end, but I also use a Darkglass B7K and VMT for distortion and a Mantic beef bag for super low end, all in different combinations depending on what I want, and still experimenting.

Also it almost has to be done with a pick IMHO as you get that bite to it
 
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blindrabbit said:
I"d be willing to bet that part of your problem is going to be using an analog octaver. You need to go digital to get that RB sound - something from the POG family, a Pitchfork, or a Whammy.

The Joyo pedals are actually fairly well reviewed, but that Bass Big Muff is a hunk of junk - start off with getting rid of that, and you'll take another huge step forward.
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Thanks for the tips! I tried to save money but gonna end up spending even more (Tender Octaver) first gonna give a shot with my friend's Boss Harmonist and see if I get better results. Any tips on a fuzz pedal?

Sorry, what do you mean by "RB sound"?
 
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ferdinandstrat said:
Distortion wise I had great results with the Digitech Hardwire distortion(the orange one). As the for the octaver I'd get an EHX Pitchfork, I have two. One for the octave and one for a fifth above for the powerchord sound. They are cheap and do their job great. When distorted their tone is actually really convincing. If you have the money you can get the POG2 which is used by Mike Kerr cos it has a low pass filter, alternatively you could just get an EQ pedal.

As far as I am concerned EHX makes the best pitchshifters on the market.

Here's how my setup sounds running an EHX Switchblade+, Pitchfork into BIAS FX. The bass is a Modern Player Jazz Bass with only the bridge pickup active, I run it through a Zoom B3 with a Sansamp patch into EZMix:



Note that there actually 2 "guitar" tracks, both are the exact same dry signal but one is a British Crunch and the other is a Heavy fuzz.
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That is one very convincing guitar sound.
Why would you need a low pass filter? Can't you remove all bass from the mix anyways on the micropog?

Thank you!
 

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