I have to agree with you, the backpack has problems. The pack rolls back and down so the load feels like it's falling off. Just unbalanced and uncomfortable. I wear backpacks pretty much every day, I have a Gollihur backpack standup bag that balances great, so I don't think the problem is me.
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Double Bass New Acoustic Image 'DOUBLESHOT'
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A nice overview from the owner, Rick Jones.
I receive my Doubleshot combo tomorrow. Next week it’ll be out on some gigs!
I receive my Doubleshot combo tomorrow. Next week it’ll be out on some gigs!
Bout to test it in this room:
And I now win smallest amp award:
This band is clarinet (tenor sax on a few tunes), lap steel, guitar, accordion, and upright. All Hawaiian hula music. The room is cavernous, and sounds decent with a lot of people. Probably fits 300-400 and opens up on the side to a giant marble hotel lobby. Should be a decent crowd tonight from the looks of it now. The guitar player in this band already ordered a combo with the effects, based on my recommendation.
And I now win smallest amp award:
This band is clarinet (tenor sax on a few tunes), lap steel, guitar, accordion, and upright. All Hawaiian hula music. The room is cavernous, and sounds decent with a lot of people. Probably fits 300-400 and opens up on the side to a giant marble hotel lobby. Should be a decent crowd tonight from the looks of it now. The guitar player in this band already ordered a combo with the effects, based on my recommendation.
I just had time to play the Doubleshot/SL combo. It sounds really good! I have a series of gigs this week. I’ll circle back next week and give a full report.
I have attached pics of my v2 “Shotseat” bracket. It works great. Stable and allows one to adjust the directionality of the mid range speaker.
I have attached pics of my v2 “Shotseat” bracket. It works great. Stable and allows one to adjust the directionality of the mid range speaker.
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love blonde basses. when my cab comes my guitarist and i are going to try running through the 2 channels on my series 3 clarus.... i feel like the midrange speaker should provide enough high frequencies. if you had the 2 channel amp i would suggest the same for your guitarist and you
I had my first gig with the Doubleshot/SL combo. The stage has awful coupling and the room has issues.
During sound check, I tried the cab on the floor and elevated. The elevated position won.
To me, the sound was great. Articulate, warm and punchy. Power is not an issue. I also played some electric bass last night as well. All sounded great.
I enjoy the benefit of having a son who plays, and I had him sit in last night. The room dispersion of sound was very good! I could hear the bass clearly in all areas of this problematic room. A very good indicator that the side-firing speakers really help the dispersion.
My son said this was his favorite set up to date FWIW.
I kept the mid-range driver boost engaged. Without it, the sound was much too dark.
All in all, a positive first experience.
During sound check, I tried the cab on the floor and elevated. The elevated position won.
To me, the sound was great. Articulate, warm and punchy. Power is not an issue. I also played some electric bass last night as well. All sounded great.
I enjoy the benefit of having a son who plays, and I had him sit in last night. The room dispersion of sound was very good! I could hear the bass clearly in all areas of this problematic room. A very good indicator that the side-firing speakers really help the dispersion.
My son said this was his favorite set up to date FWIW.
I kept the mid-range driver boost engaged. Without it, the sound was much too dark.
All in all, a positive first experience.
I have a Audiokinesis Birdhaus 4x6 that features 2 front firing 6" Fatial's and 1 side firing 6" on each side.
It's very good in especially problematic rooms with small stages. Duke quit building them, so Rick Jones is
the big player in this design now and rightfully so. I'd have to say that I preffer the MAS/18 to the Birdhaus.
It's very good in especially problematic rooms with small stages. Duke quit building them, so Rick Jones is
the big player in this design now and rightfully so. I'd have to say that I preffer the MAS/18 to the Birdhaus.
Can anyone compare this to a traditional cabinet in terms of volume and presence? Yes it's a 2x10 but it's so small - does it really fill a stage as much as a standard larger 2x10?
At the ISB convention I heard the Double Shot cabinet in 100 seat presentation hall at Indiana University. The sound was significantly ( a lot) louder and better defined with the Double Shot than the Upshot.
Folks who were closer than I was in at the MAC which seats 1,460 said they could hear it very well in the middle of the house, I was further off and to the side, so I assumed I was hearing the mains. It definitely
filled the stage from what I could gather.
Folks who were closer than I was in at the MAC which seats 1,460 said they could hear it very well in the middle of the house, I was further off and to the side, so I assumed I was hearing the mains. It definitely
filled the stage from what I could gather.
Big band gig tonight. Just checking in the room, it will sound huge and more than enough beef to do it right. That gentleman up to my left sitting is Kim Pensyl. Yeah, THAT Kim Pensyl.
AI does not spec sensitivity for the DS but claims 118db max SPL @1m and 600W handling.
By comparison, my Bergantino HT112 (a traditional ported box) is rated as 98db @1m with 1 watt in. So with only 100 watts in, it would hit 118db.
So the DS could keep up as long as you slam it with plenty of power. With the same head, though, the Berg would be much louder...probably around 6dB.
By comparison, my Bergantino HT112 (a traditional ported box) is rated as 98db @1m with 1 watt in. So with only 100 watts in, it would hit 118db.
So the DS could keep up as long as you slam it with plenty of power. With the same head, though, the Berg would be much louder...probably around 6dB.
Folks,
I played a gig tonight in a very large and boomy room with a great drummer. ISB members might know Tim Froncek. The gig went great. Trio with a guitar.
Tim's reaction was " This is the best amp out there". He loved it. It was situated on a wall(seen in pic) between Tim and I. He really liked it. He has heard my MAS 18, QSC K10, MAS 26, AI Coda, Upshot, etc.
FWIW, he really liked it. Tim isn’t generally one to comment on my bass amps.
Note: He really appreciated the cab elevated. It acted like a monitor.
Another cavern tomorrow night. I'll report back.
Mike
I played a gig tonight in a very large and boomy room with a great drummer. ISB members might know Tim Froncek. The gig went great. Trio with a guitar.
Tim's reaction was " This is the best amp out there". He loved it. It was situated on a wall(seen in pic) between Tim and I. He really liked it. He has heard my MAS 18, QSC K10, MAS 26, AI Coda, Upshot, etc.
FWIW, he really liked it. Tim isn’t generally one to comment on my bass amps.
Note: He really appreciated the cab elevated. It acted like a monitor.
Another cavern tomorrow night. I'll report back.
Mike
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Ohhh the debate between getting this or a MAS 28 is getting difficult. I’m definitely interested in hearing more reports from doublers on how the Doubleshot handles bass guitar.
Has Bass Gear Magazine got their hands on the Doubleshot yet? I'd love to see what their Cab Lab has to say about it.
I can't speak as to how the Doubleshot handles bass guitar, and I'd sure like to hear more too.
As for the MAS cabs, the MAS 26 is typically compared to 2x10s, and Mike quit making them on account of the MAS 18 outperforming it in just about every way. So by my logic, the MAS 28 ought be more like two of the Doubleshots!
I play both, but almost never on the same gig, so I am technically a "doubler," but usually on any given gig it is only upright or electric. On a lot of my recent wedding gigs I play upright/sax duo for cocktails and then electric with the band for the rest of the night. But that is not even on the same stage, and I don't use an amp for upright.
When I play electric on a gig it is with a loud enough band that the doubleshot would not be my choice. For my taste, it lacks volume and heft with the electric.
Playing it at home, it seems to me that it is not ideal for electric. All cabs are a compromise, and this one seems to work great for upright and its design inherently seems to address some room issues and is ideal for a small/medium gig.
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I played another huge reverb-heavy room last night with the Doubleshot.
I was a jazz quintet with 2 saxes and a drummer playing sticks the majority of the night. Louder than the gigs I normally play.
The cab was elevated using my Shotseat stand. A student of mine stopped by as well and played a few tunes. This allowed me to go out into the room and get an idea of the sound.
From the bandstand, the DS combo was great! I loved the sound and the band actually commented that they found the bass sound very present and clear. Everyone liked it!
Out in the room, the dispersion was really good. I'm not lying when I say you could hear the bass in every part of this room. In certain areas, it was a bit much actually. I dialed the HPF up a bit to compensate.
I have been having a great time with this combo. I have a variety of rooms to continue testing next week.
So far, it's a keeper.
I was a jazz quintet with 2 saxes and a drummer playing sticks the majority of the night. Louder than the gigs I normally play.
The cab was elevated using my Shotseat stand. A student of mine stopped by as well and played a few tunes. This allowed me to go out into the room and get an idea of the sound.
From the bandstand, the DS combo was great! I loved the sound and the band actually commented that they found the bass sound very present and clear. Everyone liked it!
Out in the room, the dispersion was really good. I'm not lying when I say you could hear the bass in every part of this room. In certain areas, it was a bit much actually. I dialed the HPF up a bit to compensate.
I have been having a great time with this combo. I have a variety of rooms to continue testing next week.
So far, it's a keeper.
Just got my DoubleShot and backpack this week. (I already had a Clarus 4S.) It’ll be big band rehearsal on Monday before I can get a sense of the speaker out of my basement since tonight’s gig is house monitors only. So far I like it here at home. On Monday I’ll try it on and off the floor—and with my Auralex Gramma pad. Should take a BG as well I suppose.
What I can confirm now, though, is my full agreement that the Mooradian backpack is an unsuccessful design. No matter how one adjusts the straps the load rides oddly and uncomfortably. It may simply be that getting a 15 lb one-foot cube to ride comfortably on your back isn’t a feasible goal. I don’t know. I may keep the bag simply as a carrying case for the speaker and head using to top handle, but that doesn’t seem particularly robustly stitched.
