Let them "work out the bugs" first.
Bugs??? What Bugs??? It took them almost a year to get to this point but, like you, I am watching.
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New Ampeg Venture Series
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Bugs??? What Bugs??? It took them almost a year to get to this point but, like you, I am watching.
I, for the life of me, can not believe that they'd release a 1200 watt amp that is only 4 ohm capable.
Lame!
Lame!
Yes!
In fact running through a DAW using plug-ins was the beginning of me adopting the modeling pedal thing. It was early on before modeling amps or pedals. I could see the practicality of it. The only trouble I found, again early on, was in order to use the speaker sims live was the need of some sort of FRFR cabs or play back system, like the PA or FOH. The amp models without speakers sims work through most things if you accepted it not going through the appropriate speaker cab.
I can't believe they are releasing cabinets that don't support the power of the amps they're released with.
Different strokes etc, I've got the PF500 and like it a lot. No issues from mine (yes, sample size of one but a lot of the issues came early on and were ironed out even before Yamaha took over).
OTOH that one that's collecting dust for you might be worth more now that they're out of production, if you're inclined to unload it.
That fine line between 'proven' and 'trashed'...
Yes!
In fact running through a DAW using plug-ins was the beginning of me adopting the modeling pedal thing. It was early on before modeling amps or pedals. I could see the practicality of it. The only trouble I found, again early on, was in order to use the speaker sims live was the need of some sort of FRFR cabs or play back system, like the PA or FOH. The amp models without speakers sims work through most things if you accepted it not going through the appropriate speaker cab.
OK, so here we have the difference between what we have been discussing. Live and home studio. If I was going live, I would want the real thing as well. But, in a DAW setting, I find the plugins, with their cab sims, perfectly acceptable.
Oh I get it now.
Yes at home it's always plug-ins for recording, it's fine. I never mic up a B-15 for recording my crap. You'd never tell the difference.
I find for live they are acceptable too, until I got my rig.
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Given the wattages, and because the manuals explicitly say "Class D - ICE Power", it's very likely the V3, V7, and V12 amps are using the ICE Power 300AS1, 700AS1, and 1200AS1 modules respectively. Per the data sheets none of these amps support less than 4 ohms. You can download the data sheets and read for yourself. Although some other products that use the same modules offer a 2.6 ohm mode this is an "off-book" application and requires extra sauce to accomplish.
Something else is these amps don't appear to have fans (although maybe I missed them and they're on the side, but the manual makes no mention of a fan). Designing the system to run at less than 4 ohms with these modules requires extra attention to thermal management. Since it's likely Ampeg will sell more of these than some of the other smaller makers products they're probably trying to prolong the life and reduce warranty claims and restricting them to ICEPower spec-compliant operating regimes seems smart.
And all the new cabinets are 8 ohms. So go crazy, get two 212s. Shake beer glasses off the bar.
I can't believe they are releasing cabinets that don't support the power of the amps they're released with.
Heads are all rated at 4ohm, and cabs are 8ohm... so the 410 can handle the 1200, 212 the 700, and the rest the 300.
I do find it odd that the 210 and 115 aren't rated for the 700... even doubled up. You have to go 212 or 410.
I'm looking forward to hearing TBs reviews of these.
I'm glad Ampeg is doing something new, but I'm having a hard time getting excited about these just yet. I get that Ampeg is going for a retro look, but in the pictures they kinda look disposable to me.
I hope I'm wrong and that these are awesome.
I'm glad Ampeg is doing something new, but I'm having a hard time getting excited about these just yet. I get that Ampeg is going for a retro look, but in the pictures they kinda look disposable to me.
I hope I'm wrong and that these are awesome.
I'm not really in the market for any of this, I get my ampeg(ish) tones from other devices like the Tech21 VT, but I'm still happy to see the Yampeg merger produce some new products. While not huge innovations, it's still great to see them bringing these to market.
Well what if you want to run (2) 4 ohm 212 cabs, your screwed.
GK, Mesa, Bergantino and others offer 2 ohm handling.
Seems like a fail to me
Finally Yamapeg make Wow factor !!!
I been post before wishing Yamapeg put the SGT preamp pedal on replacement PF series, YES, they did !
Meanwhile, i also wish there are 212 cab for PF line, YES, they did again !!!
Well, will pay attention on this new Venture.
Honestly.....i do believe the front panel look classy with chrome finished!
I been post before wishing Yamapeg put the SGT preamp pedal on replacement PF series, YES, they did !
Meanwhile, i also wish there are 212 cab for PF line, YES, they did again !!!
Well, will pay attention on this new Venture.
Honestly.....i do believe the front panel look classy with chrome finished!
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Dang! And today is new amp day for me and everything. A V4-b is now shaking my walls through 2 15 inch cabs. I'm all set for now. These do look pretty cool, especially for the money and ease of transport and setup. Looking forward to some sound samples. If they sound anything like the SGT-DI, these should do well i would think.
Only nitpick I have is that I wish amp companies would just stop putting one-knob compressors on amps. Waste of circuitry and real-estate on the front panel. Either put a full-feature compressor in there or skip it as opposed to a half-baked solution that most players will either skip over, or mis-use due to lack of understanding compression to begin with.
I don’t have a whole lot of confidence in Ampeg’s newer, solid state models. Reliability, longevity, and craftsmanship seem to be lacking.
