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New Arkham Class D “Beast”

As Mr. Arnopol pointed out, heat is not the best thing for semiconductors. But there is more to it than that. Semiconductors die from crib death (I believe this was about 1/50,000 in the 80's or 90's, usually DOA or dies within normal factory burn-in), exceeding the thermal rating (not running at the high end of thermal ratings, but above), over-voltage (includes static discharge/ESD damage from poor handling, even before the part reaches the factory, often mistaken for a crib death, can make it past burn in, lasting, days, weeks or moths... the walking wounded, common with obsolete/out of production/surplus parts which are needed to keep old designs alive), or just old age (IIRC 20+ years typical, here is where keeping stuff cooler can help extend the age, but probably N/A to bassists... do you plan to keep your amp over 20 years?). <---My use of "(" ")" keeps this from being a run-on sentence. By the late 90's, I walked away from electronics, service and support, jumping out of the pot and into the fire, so I'm sure things have changed and my memory is fogged, but that should be the basic theory of it, and does not include such malpractice as counterfeit parts and user abuse (not beating the users, we all want to, but the user abusing the gear).

I believe the expectation that parts will run warmer or you will make the amp work harder at 2 ohms is false or at least a moot point for MI amps. For SS/class D, there are two types of amps I am aware of, those with a switch for 2 ohm operation, offering the same wattage at 2 ohm as 4 ohms (like GB IIRC or Mesa... nice as you don't need two 4 ohm cabs to get full power) and amps without a switch (requiring a 2 ohm load to get to full power, kind of nice for me, allowing me to detune performance for weaker cabs/lower volumes in my living room).

Amp with a 2 ohm switch: Moot. You have a D800. You have a pair of 4 ohm cabs, you play 1 cab and have around 800 WRMS, or you use both cabs, flip the switch and still have 800 WRMS available. Same temperature, 800 WRMS = 800 WRMS. Maybe you turn down and run cooler.

Amp without a 2 ohm switch: Maybe moot. You have a Carvin BX1600. You have a pair of 4 ohm cabs, you play 1 cab and have around 400 WRMS, or you use both cabs, and then have 800 WRMS available. Maybe you turn down and make it moot. Or maybe you just use both channels at 4 ohms and get the same power to both cabs at half the rated capacity making it moot.

Either way, if it's a good design, it won't matter.


Amen!
Thanks for your thoughtful post and effort to educate me (as my parents and several others can attest, an often thankless task!).

I think the amount of engineering (and expertise/experience of said engineers) employed by companies is all over the map. Some just do the minimum required to get an MVP and not get sued and call it good. Others sweat the details.

The boutique side of things is an interesting mix of book smarts and street smarts...
Like Q and James Bond?
...and it has been fascinating to see things evolve over time.
I appreciate both book smarts and street smarts, though I sometimes fail to evince either. I agree that they've come together in some interesting and fruitful ways with regard to "smaller batch" bass gear in recent years.

My fault...I was unclear in my statement...edited now to avoid misunderstanding
No worries -- my reading was a bit clumsy -- and I could have asked for clarification.
 
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Interesting reasons why it doesn't.

ARKHAM - THE JAMES TONESTACK

I had the same reservation before I received the Abyss. But my experience has been that the inherent sound of the preamp coupled with the controls it offers, I am not wanting for any midrange control. Its all right there for me, either by cutting lows and highs, or by popping the mid switch which is beautifully voiced, IMO.

The James tonestack with the Range control really provides a lot of mid control, and IME, sounds more organic and natural than some traditional mid controls I’ve had on other amps. The mid switch is just an added bonus.

The Arkham tutorial, linked above, is a must-read.

Though it's mentioned in the Arkham lit, important to note is the Range control's effect in sliding around whatever mid-boosted or mid-scooped (or "uphill" or "downhill") EQ contour you dial in with the Bass and Treble controls - you can approach it that way - dialing in a curve, then sliding it around like you would with the frequency knob on a band of semi-parametric EQ (but with control over the amplitude of both sides of the curve) - or as simply setting the "pivot" point between the broadly-voiced Bass and Treble controls.

The EQ on the Zephyr I had wasn't what I was used to (multiple bands of semi-parametric EQ or, barring that, four or five bands of "straight" peaking/shelving EQ), but I agree with those describing its voicing and response as musical - I liked that the sound didn't get wonky but stayed coherent at more extreme EQ settings (even though I rarely used them). That's something I look for in any EQ section, whatever the design.
 
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In my mind a well designed 2 ohm stable amp run at 2 ohms should be just as reliable as a well designed 4 ohm stable amp run at 4 ohms.

Not that it's just as easy or costs less to design and build the reliable 2 ohm stable amp.

(typo #9067 fixed)

I've run an Eden 550 into a 4 ohm XST210 and 4 ohm XLT212 since around '03 with exactly nil problems.
At 2 ohms Eden say it puts out about 750wrms, I've read some people complain
they're under powered and don't have enough headroom - well this has done everything from small Wine Bars with 1 box to large open air stages with both, I got to about 11.30 on the Master once on one big open air stage and was promptly told to turn down, too much spill.

Maintenance? It's broken 1 input jack, one Master Vol Pot (got a bit scratchy), and had one new Input Valve.

As far as I know, it's never even clipped the output so I geuss I just don't know what the problems are - never experienced any.

I'm presently trying to get enough filthy together to get an Abyss/Zephyr to mabe run into the Effects Loop and Switch between them to start - the Eden's going nowhere as it still sounds beautiful, is totally reliable and Six months ago one of our top techs serviced it and said it's still absolutely 100%.

I'm a happy Camper : )
 
OK folks, having played a loud as balls NYE gig with a power trio (vox, guitar and kick drum bumped through the PA, so the bass rig was working a little harder than usual), I can say with a lot of certainty that the Beast is aptly named. It just ruled on the gig, and made my berg cabs sound fantastic. Its probably the loudest I have ran the pair of CN210's and the amp didn't break a sweat. Didn't even get warm by the end of the night, and i was seriously pushing the rig. Even though I could hear the drivers starting to strain a little, the amp just kept on coming, and the tone and articulation was just effortless, allowing for a very relaxed right hand at super high volume levels, so so nice. The 1200w ICE is so round and warm, with so much fundamental, it really pairs well with the Arkham tone. The Pascal (RAD1000) by comparison is no slouch, but it excels more at providing "leading edge" note slam and initial impact, whereas the 1200 shines throughout the note body and offers a bit more note definition and tightness.

All in all the voicing and performance of the Beast is spot on. As speculated, the 30 hz HPF seems to tighten up the lows really nicely, and allows me to push more active bass eq for a fatter voicing without overworking the amp module or stressing out the cabs too much.

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The Beast isn't on the website yet? I'd love to read more about it. It seems v cool.

Just updated the site with basic specs.
ARKHAM-THE BEAST OF BOTH WORLDS

I'd like to mention, the first run of these will be standalone chassis. A few months down the road, I plan on having chassis fabricated that can be used standalone or racked for a few bucks more.
 
Nice. Very wanty.

So the Abyss and Bullet are discontinued now?

Yes. Trying to streamline a bit.
This year it'll be the Zephyr, the Beast of Both Worlds, and a new basic preamp in a pedal sized enclosure. That one is some months away though.
 
Aaand... how about a "Beauty" to complement the "Beast"? I don't have much use for massive power these days, but I'd love a 25-30 watt all-tube rack-mount power amp to go with my Zephyr, with the same quality and attention to tone. Something that would saturate pleasingly at a volume level appropriate to the small venues I'm playing; and a DI from the output transformer to feed the PA in bigger places.
 
Aaand... how about a "Beauty" to complement the "Beast"? I don't have much use for massive power these days, but I'd love a 25-30 watt all-tube rack-mount power amp to go with my Zephyr, with the same quality and attention to tone. Something that would saturate pleasingly at a volume level appropriate to the small venues I'm playing; and a DI from the output transformer to feed the PA in bigger places.

Sure, I could build that :)
 
Aaand... how about a "Beauty" to complement the "Beast"? I don't have much use for massive power these days, but I'd love a 25-30 watt all-tube rack-mount power amp to go with my Zephyr, with the same quality and attention to tone. Something that would saturate pleasingly at a volume level appropriate to the small venues I'm playing; and a DI from the output transformer to feed the PA in bigger places.


Uh... yeah!!!! Cept I want the 200w version that you can knock down to 50w and push the heck out of.
 
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