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New Ernie Ball Tim Commerford Models

#142
Paul New said:
Shouldn't signature instruments would be something unique that the player helped develop? Something like the Roscoe Beck, the Marcus Miller, or Tony Franklin?

EBMM is getting a little carried away with the idea, I think. Am I thinking wrong? Why would someone would pay extra for an instrument that has nothing to do with the signature player?​
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From the video of Tim demoing it, along with the input from alexclaber (Tim's cab maker) in the thread, it seems he has been going back and forth with EBMM about this thing for a while.

He insists on a string-thru body bridge, he liked the old bridge mute system, and always adds a thumb rest to his Stingrays (seems they took that into consideration when they designed the ramp system).

In this case, it seems like the player certainly did help develop the direction of this thing. I'd say it's a very similar approach to the Fender Marcus Miller jazz - familiar overall model/body/design with a twist - but Tim himself never did a DIY job to make it happen prior.
 
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#143
Paul New said:
Shouldn't signature instruments would be something unique that the player helped develop? Something like the Roscoe Beck, the Marcus Miller, or Tony Franklin?

EBMM is getting a little carried away with the idea, I think. Am I thinking wrong? Why would someone would pay extra for an instrument that has nothing to do with the signature player?​
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But it has the player's name on it! And a nice unique neck plate! And it's a limited edition! And apparently that's what that dude likes to play with now.

Honestly, I think their tactics are genius. They have their standard models and they're mixing it up with different signature limited edition runs every two-three months with whatever artist has enough name recognition to sell at least about 50 at let's say 2.500 a pop and they're golden.
 
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Paul New said:
Shouldn't signature instruments would be something unique that the player helped develop? Something like the Roscoe Beck, the Marcus Miller, or Tony Franklin?

EBMM is getting a little carried away with the idea, I think. Am I thinking wrong? Why would someone would pay extra for an instrument that has nothing to do with the signature player?​
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TC helped develop them. They’re what he wants.
From my perspective, you’d buy a sig model because it offers 1 or more features other production models don’t. I doubt all the people who have the Fender Geddy Lee sig bass are die hard Rush fans.
I like the features of the passive long scale. The electronics seem similar to the G&L L1000 with a EBMM pickup in the Stingray position instead of an MFD in the P bass position. All that said, I won’t be buying 1 unless the price comes down a bit and EBMM makes it available after the limited run is all sold as was done with the Joe Dart long scale.
 
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Gothic said:
But it has the player's name on it! And a nice unique neck plate! And it's a limited edition! And apparently that's what that dude likes to play with now.

Honestly, I think their tactics are genius. They have their standard models and they're mixing it up with different signature limited edition runs every two-three months with whatever artist has enough name recognition to sell at least about 50 at let's say 2.500 a pop and they're golden.
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At least the artists make a few bucks.
 
#149
I'm a really big fan of what EBMM has been doing recently with the new Specials, but also these new limited Artist series. I own a Special 4H from the first year run (black/maple/chrome) and I really like it. It compliments my other basses ('64 AVRI Jazz and '63 AVRI P) very well - US Geddy on the way (hope it lives up to the hype).

That being said, is this bass for me - no. But neither is the DarkRay, Joe Dart, Cliff Williams etc. However, I do like that EBMM continues to introduce these limited edition models and there are buyers out there that will fill their quota, so good for them. I think it shows desire on EBMM's part to introduce new items and to stay engaged with the bass playing community, but also to differentiate themselves from the Fender mass marketing model. I mean who really cares about the new ProII line or new colors of the same thing...bring back the AVRI series for goodness sake.

It's been mentioned a few times in this thread, but I would like to see Flea and EBMM reconcile. I'm a big RHCP fan (tattoo included), but I understand where the relationship soured and certainly don't think the StingRay should have been rebranded the Flea bass (also, I found the pre-special necks to be unstable). A StingRay Flea series could be really cool - I'd anticipate the 'Flea bridge', 2 band eq, 4H only, no pickguard, rear mounted control cavity, and a glossed roasted neck. Throw in some classic/unique colors and tell me how to address the check.

Anyways, props to EBMM and I hope the Timmy C model finds itself in the hands of a lot of happy players.
 
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#151
Would be cool if EBMM had two signature lines:
- the current Artist Series collection for artists who help design the signature model(s), like TC, Joe Dart etc. and
- the EBMM Legacy Series, for artists who, for obvious reasons, cannot help design the sig model(s), like Bernard Edwards and Louis Johnson.
The Legacy series could feature accurate replicas of the artists' well-known EBMM basses. Like they did for Cliff Williams (who fortunately is still with us :-)
That could make everyone happy then, right? :)
 
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Eldon Tyrell said:
Would be cool if EBMM had two signature lines:
- the current Artist Series collection for artists who help design the signature model(s), like TC, Joe Dart etc. and
- the EBMM Legacy Series, for artists who, for obvious reasons, cannot help design the sig model(s), like Bernard Edwards and Louis Johnson.
The Legacy series could feature accurate replicas of the artists' well-known EBMM basses. Like they did for Cliff Williams (who fortunately is still with us :)
That could make everyone happy then, right? :)
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Great idea. :thumbsup:
 
#155
jmattbassplaya said:
Same. That seemed like a weird miscalculation.
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Right?!
Kinda think it would have made this model even more appealing (& filled a vacant niche in the current catalog) if they’d included that single pickup in the neck position (HS config w/ ramp in-between) as shown in the above video as well. :cool:
 
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Deano Destructo said:
Ugh. I’m almost sold on buying one of these. Only thing killing it for me is I want the passive full scale aesthetics of the natural with black hardware but with active electronics (much like Tim C. has in the below interview). Almost but no cigar….:bawl:

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If I were to question anything about the TC offerings from EBMM, it would be :

Why aren't they selling the HS model (with no pickup selector switch) that Tim is playing?
 
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