Yep and all 4 Slap synthetic strings are very fat ... so that it's actually not easy to distinguish between A and D and D and G if you take them off and later decide to refit (as I did ). Much larger diameter than Solo strings
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Double Bass New Evah Pirazzi slap strings from Pirastro!
- Thread starter Francois Blais
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Can anyone compare the sound of the slap d and g to the velvet Anima d and g sound wise? How do they sound going up the neck? I think I would like them arco and feel-wise, but are they just dead like orchestral strings?
I didn't think so. I think when I put them on they were a little brighter Than the Velvets.
I bought a used set of the EP Slap synthetic strings and I noticed this as well. The synthetic Evah Slaps are a lot different than any other Evah Pirazzi variety.
I sold the synthetic D & G, but I am using the E & A with a Lenzner gut D & G and I find that they are a great match.
- Steve
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I did a show on an old ply strung with guts and got the bug to try guts on my bass, so I ordered a g and d of these. Put them on Sunday, and played gigs on Tues and Wed and the tuning was surprisingly stable - some minor tweaking after every set. Today - Friday - the tuning is all over the place. The strings were way flat when I picked it up, and I've needed to re-tune every 15 minutes or so. I'm a gut newbie. Is this normal?
Hi, my experience on plain gut strings is that the changes in humidity levels affects them. Keeping them clean and well oiled helps ( there`s plenty of threads about plain gut maintenance on TB ), but they still do weird stuff at times, especially when humidity levels go up.
I just played an outdoor show here in Florida where it's just staring to get more humid, and I had to tune my plain gut D & G twice per set.
- Steve
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Good point Francois, I had only measured the two lower strings with the caliper and they were about the same, but you are correct, I just checked and the G and D and much larger in comparison.
Just put on the Slap E and A to pair up with my Gamut D and G on a ply Cleveland. Had some dead Belcantos on the E and A before, which blended well with the gut. I was happy with them, just wanted to see what else was out there.
After a few hours the tuning is pretty stable. Way more front-end thump and a** than the Belcantos, no surprise. Sounds more like gut. Really fun to play right now. Got a few days to break in before weekend gigs. I'm thinking they'll stay.
After a few hours the tuning is pretty stable. Way more front-end thump and a** than the Belcantos, no surprise. Sounds more like gut. Really fun to play right now. Got a few days to break in before weekend gigs. I'm thinking they'll stay.
My favorite string setup on my bass so far has been Spiro S42 mitt E/A with Pirastro Oliv D/G. The string search for me would have been done if the things would stay in tune!!!
I know in some climates the tuning instability isn't a thing but apparently Michigan is not one of those places.
I've been undergoing a bit of string psychosis the last few months trying to find an alternative.
I think the Evah Slap synthetic D/G are the closest you'll find. The D in particular feels and sounds almost identical to the Oliv D I had. Both arco and pizz. The Evah slap syn G sounds more like plain gut than the Oliv G and is noticeably looser feeling (which depending on your taste may or may not be a bad thing!). I think there is a real magic with the Oliv G where it sounds to my ear like a true hybrid, synthesis of gut and steel.
But these evah slaps get you 90-95% of the way there but cost less than half, have the tuning stability of my spiros and I havent heard of these falling apart on people like the Olivs do for some.
I don't think anything will be able to truly replace the Olivs, but the Evah Slap Synth are good enough. They have a nice gut like bounce to them, a thick diameter and warm,dark tone both pizz and arco. They sound really good with my Spiro Mitt E/A and I am very happy with them.
I know in some climates the tuning instability isn't a thing but apparently Michigan is not one of those places.
I've been undergoing a bit of string psychosis the last few months trying to find an alternative.
I think the Evah Slap synthetic D/G are the closest you'll find. The D in particular feels and sounds almost identical to the Oliv D I had. Both arco and pizz. The Evah slap syn G sounds more like plain gut than the Oliv G and is noticeably looser feeling (which depending on your taste may or may not be a bad thing!). I think there is a real magic with the Oliv G where it sounds to my ear like a true hybrid, synthesis of gut and steel.
But these evah slaps get you 90-95% of the way there but cost less than half, have the tuning stability of my spiros and I havent heard of these falling apart on people like the Olivs do for some.
I don't think anything will be able to truly replace the Olivs, but the Evah Slap Synth are good enough. They have a nice gut like bounce to them, a thick diameter and warm,dark tone both pizz and arco. They sound really good with my Spiro Mitt E/A and I am very happy with them.
Samuel: Are the synthetic G and D strings thinner in diameter than the Oliv G and D?
If so, can you make a comparison with Zyex (med or light) or any other G and D's you have used? The Gollihur Music website shows the diameter of the gut G and D but not the synthetic G and D. Pirastro only shows the tensions.
Thanks.
The diameters are pretty similar, I didn't go straight from the Olivs to the slaps so it's hard to say for sure. But definitely in the same ball park. Zyex are only a little fatter than steels if I remember. I had a zyex medium g on recently and it was noticeably thinner than the Oliv g that was on before it. And as I said I think the Olivs and Evah synth slaps are similar diameters.
There is a noticeable tension drop from the Spiro A to the Evah slap d, just like there was with the Oliv d. But I don't mind. The bounce of the top strings and the tension of the spiros feel pretty similar to my right hand when walking. It's when I use more of an electric bass 2 finger technique where I notice the difference. But that's when I'm usually trying my best to sound like Scott LaFaro so a drop in tension is a GOOD thing! The Olivs could take a similar amount of bow weight as compared to the spiros. With the Evah slaps I'm having to really lighten up the arm weight when I transition from Spiro to Evah slap but I'm getting used to it.
There is a noticeable tension drop from the Spiro A to the Evah slap d, just like there was with the Oliv d. But I don't mind. The bounce of the top strings and the tension of the spiros feel pretty similar to my right hand when walking. It's when I use more of an electric bass 2 finger technique where I notice the difference. But that's when I'm usually trying my best to sound like Scott LaFaro so a drop in tension is a GOOD thing! The Olivs could take a similar amount of bow weight as compared to the spiros. With the Evah slaps I'm having to really lighten up the arm weight when I transition from Spiro to Evah slap but I'm getting used to it.
After three months of gigging I'm starting to sour a bit on the E. The A solved my problems splitting the difference between wound and raw.
It may just be my bass, but the E doesn't respond well when I really want to lay into it. Might be putting a wrapped gut back on for the E. I'm trying to resist the urge because I love the stability and tension match. Not sure how the wrapped gut E next to the slap will feel.
It may just be my bass, but the E doesn't respond well when I really want to lay into it. Might be putting a wrapped gut back on for the E. I'm trying to resist the urge because I love the stability and tension match. Not sure how the wrapped gut E next to the slap will feel.
I gave up and put the wrapped gut E back on, and I'm happy again for now. I'm only using the Evah A now with Lenzners on the rest. The Evah Slap E just didn't feel right on my bass.
I don't know if this is why but pirastro recently put out tensions of all their strings and there is a drop in tension from the A to the E.
For me the tension wasn't the issue. At least I didn't feel like the pull was any part of the problem. I just didn't like the way it behaved, particularly when I really wanted to lay into it. The problem could just be my bass, as I've had some E's that just didn't behave well on it. It was like I had to baby it or it would choke out on anything other than an open note. This was really affecting dynamics live. It wouldn't let me get that board rattle or growl on occasion that even with wrapped gut I can produce.
Like I said though, it could be my bass as well. They are all different animals. Also they are called slaps, but I'm using them for 95% pizz...so there's that too. I have no plans on replacing the A. It has more control and stability than the plain gut, but it's not wonky like wrapped A.
