New GR bass Active Cabs

[gtirard]

GR Bass now offers 12 active cabs.

Cool for all those among us who use an external preamp, it can even be used directly with an active bass.

As usual, the specs are monstruous… Here's a example for the 212 Slim 800 ACT

And, as usual, it's going to be difficult to find them.

Thoughts?

 

[mrm56]

cool product but i'd rather use a pure 800 separately with a wider variety of available cabs.
great product line they've developed.

 

[MaHei]

What I'd like to know is whether the new active cabs are simply combos without a preamp, or an attempt at FRFR with tweeter and crossover adapted to that purpose.

 

[Diddywah]

I have the 112 AT active cab on order in Natural Fiber finish. I am curious to see how it works out, as I rarely/never touch eq/tone controls on my amp. I do any tonal adjustments needed with my basses tone/pickup controls or with my fingers.

 

[gtirard]

What I'd like to know is whether the new active cabs are simply combos without a preamp, or an attempt at FRFR with tweeter and crossover adapted to that purpose.

GR Bass has never used "FRFR" in any communication, but they say "Pure Tone" everywhere.

I guess it means their products are neutral, transparent, uncolored but not "PA like"

 

[Nebadon2000]

I understand FRFR Cab's for those that use Cab Sim Products but I prefer Cab's Voiced specifically for Bass that have tone I like with my Bass and Amp in neutral settings for no FOH or with FOH and Stage sound.

I personally had trouble with my Original Band trying to get Bass Tone I liked through FOH with me doing Sound
using Preamp and IEM'S. So eventually got Peavey Power amp and SWR Goliath and put in middle between PA Speakers

I also used Roland D-Bass Active Speaker Cab with various Preamps with excellent results from 2006 to 2014

 

[jimmydean]

GR BASS RULES !

 

[bucephylus]

GR Bass now offers 12 active cabs.

Cool for all those among us who use an external preamp, it can even be used directly with an active bass.

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As usual, the specs are monstruous… Here's a example for the 212 Slim 800 ACT

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And, as usual, it's going to be difficult to find them.

Thoughts?

This company is def cutting edge. My issue with them is availability and support. No question that the design and specs make them extremely attractive. Two of those powered 212AT’s you listed would be more than enough for just about any gig. But, the (non) availability makes them a non-starter.

 

[Matt Power]

This company is def cutting edge. My issue with them is availability and support. No question that the design and specs make them extremely attractive. Two of those powered 212AT’s you listed would be more than enough for just about any gig. But, the (non) availability makes them a non-starter.

Austin Guitar House has them. John Fox Bass has them. You'll never find them at Sweetwater (thankfully). I have emailed them several times and always gotten immediate responses. I have 2 cabs and love, love, love them. Not sure why people think they aren't available. They are. Just maybe not local to you.

 

[gtirard]

Austin Guitar House has them. John Fox Bass has them. You'll never find them at Sweetwater (thankfully). I have emailed them several times and always gotten immediate responses. I have 2 cabs and love, love, love them. Not sure why people think they aren't available. They are. Just maybe not local to you.

I'm the super happy owner of a NF210V, and I kind of "agree… but…"
- If for the majority it's not available local to them, then it's not really available
- Even when a local shop have GR Bass products, they only have a few. You may be lucky and try/buy directly one of the few models they have in the shop, or you have to ask the shop to order a specific product for you.
- I confirm the email support is very responsive for pre-sales questions, but I think the important thing is the efficiency of the support when you actually have to solve a malfunction

I happen to have a issue to solve: my cab produces a vibration noise when I play loud on the E string, and we noticed that the noise stops when somebody press on the GR Bass logo.

My experience of the support for this specific issue is not so good so far, I'm still waiting for a solution 3 weeks after my first email.

I will report here when everything will be sorted out, but for the moment I cannot confirm the reactivity of the support in all situations.

 

[Lance Bunyon]

What the heck is an "active cab"? Are they powered speakers?
Yes I'm an old guy trying to stay afloat in modern technology.
10 years ago we got powered cabs.
Is this the same thing with a different name?
Confused in NC...

 

[Matt Power]

It's the same thing. Buuuut, lighter!

 

[Nebadon2000]

Active is different than powered Cab

Has DSP designed to match Amp response to Cabinet

This is info for Active Cab I bought back in 2006

Roland’s newest and most advanced bass amplifiers employ proprietary FFP with Active Speaker Control technology for lightning-fast response and ultra high-quality bass tone.

 

[Lance Bunyon]

Active is different than powered Cab

Has DSP designed to match Amp response to Cabinet

This is info for Active Cab I bought back in 2006

Roland’s newest and most advanced bass amplifiers employ proprietary FFP with Active Speaker Control technology for lightning-fast response and ultra high-quality bass tone.

So it's magic?

 

[agedhorse]

Active is different than powered Cab

Has DSP designed to match Amp response to Cabinet

This is info for Active Cab I bought back in 2006

Roland’s newest and most advanced bass amplifiers employ proprietary FFP with Active Speaker Control technology for lightning-fast response and ultra high-quality bass tone.

IME, active and powered speaker terminology are usually used interchangeably. This goes back to when the processing was analog, as well as newer products with DSP.

 

[Nebadon2000]

IME, active and powered speaker terminology are usually used interchangeably. This goes back to when the processing was analog, as well as newer products with DSP.

Yes I agree with terminology reference: your IME is significantly above my IME: I will just call them Active Powered Speakers

Is there an advantage to using technology to match
Amp with specific Speaker in Cab? As opposed to off the shelf Amp screwed too bottom of Cab jumped with short Speaker cable to off the shelf Speaker

Or is Marketing involved by using 'Active'

Have you ever considered designing one being around PA Speakers?

 

[agedhorse]

Yes I agree with terminology reference: your IME is significantly above my IME: I will just call them Active Powered Speakers

Is there an advantage to using technology to match
Amp with specific Speaker in Cab? As opposed to off the shelf Amp screwed too bottom of Cab jumped with short Speaker cable to off the shelf Speaker

Or is Marketing involved by using 'Active'

Have you ever considered designing one being around PA Speakers?

Active speakers are powered and powered speakers are active. Passive speakers are both unpowered and not active.

Yes, there are significant benefits to active processing provided they are developed and tested in conjunction with the speakers and not simply a marketing afterthought.

In my previous life, I developed speakers for the touring pro audio industry… both passive and active. In my day, I did most of my design work in the analog domain (some of these basic circuits can be found in bass amps I designed as well), though a few used DSP based solutions.

 

[Mark Ambler]

Is there no way to change the level of the tweeter on the new active cabs?

 

[jimmydean]

Love the GR Bass line , trying to justify buying a powered cab to run with a Zoom B60 pedal when I already have a AT212 cab and GRB amp.........?

 

[Diddywah]

Is there no way to change the level of the tweeter on the new active cabs?

There are two tiny adjustment knobs marked "high" and "low" on the rear panel. I'm not sure if they control the amp or the split frequency between tweeter and woofer.