New mesa subway amps and cabs!

[redstrand]

And to think HP calculators wasn't as sideways as we first thought. I use PCalc on my phone and watch.

 

[Al Kraft]

I try not to let myself fall into the trap of depersonalizing others and aim to be constructive. But sadly, yes, there is no shortage of trolls and other miscreants who seem to derive pleasure from hurting others. Over the years I've learned to ignore them and focus on people who are interested in constructive dialog.

I sincerely hope you did not think that I was implying your post was in any way inconsistent with that. If so, please know that was not my intent. I felt your point was well made and I was addressing the apparently disrespectful PMs mentioned in earlier posts.

 

[Thundar]

Blah Blah Blah...He is Uriah Duffy and he KILLS through any amp! The fact that he is Demo-ing that WD800 and the Subway cabs is just icing on the cake and makes me want them even more!

 

[Raulplaysbass]

There may be some of this, I believe the video used mostly room mic to give a better impression of what it sounded in the room.

With some of the comments being made, and different player tastes combined with variables in the video delivery system keep any video demos from being "gospel". I'm staring to wonder if it's worth the considerable effort and time taken to put these videos together that show the amp's depth of features and the relative differences between cabinets. There's a lot of information being presented aside from anybody's personal tone preference or playing style. Are you critics so good of a player that you can't put personal bias aside and take this for what it is?

I think the playing and demo nailed it. Hearing them, it made me believe it to be an accurate representation and makes me want to go kick the tires! If you listen through a phone or similar inadequate device, you will miss all the info and just hear the upper mids.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I agree with your point. However, the deeper issue here I think is more about being respectful. There are some styles of music that are absolutely not for me, but that doesn't mean they're trash or imply anything negative about those who play that style or enjoy listening to it. Same with artistic works like paintings and sculpture.

IMO simply stating that something isn't for you or doesn't work for you is all that's necessary in those cases. If appropriate, offering a thought or two about how it might have better connected with you is also fine - everyone who puts something out there should expect (even welcome) some thoughtful feedback. For some reason though, many people today tend to use the safety and anonymity of the internet to be hateful towards others and that type of destructive behavior is never called for IMO.

I heard this once, it's like a guy complaining that a tampon doesn't fit. It was not for you to begin with

 

[DJ Bebop]

Blah Blah Blah...He is Uriah Duffy and he KILLS through any amp! The fact that he is Demo-ing that WD800 and the Subway cabs is just icing on the cake and makes me want them even more!

I would have like to have heard just a little bit of that

 

[Jeff Scott]

I just came across this video. Perhaps, there could be a bass equivalent made. I like how it's really laid back but it gets all the different tones John is looking for from just the amp (yes, there are some pedals in use for certain things but this video is excellent in demoing the various tonaities possible. Very cool video.

 

[57pbass]

I thought this was a very effective demonstration. It can be improved upon but it focuses on the features.

 

[Lfsbera]

For me, the videos of Mesa's Rosette amp are the perfect exemples of showcasing all the features as well the playing styles of the potential buyers. But Mesa did a lot of 'em. So please make us a lot of videos of the WD800!

 

[MyMusic]

Now what about the WD800 and the cabs??????????

 

[LeonD]

Regarding product videos, I think they can be a good way to learn about features and they can be entertaining. But I never go by how they sound. Way too many variables on the playing (player, type of bass and settings, style), production (recording equipment and technique) and listening (what am I listening on, when am I listening, etc.).

What I prefer to do is, if the gear's characteristics (price, size, feature set, anticipated sound, etc) fit my needs, get my hands on a copy. Borrow, rent, buy (used if it's been out for a while). My home is better than trying anything out in a store or reading about something on the internet. The final test is always on a gig. If it works there, it may be a keeper.

Very, very, very few pieces of gear have I been able to determine if it's a keeper or not in a day or two. It usually takes a few months. And a few gigs. But if it passes, it usually stays with me for quite a while.

To brings this back to Mesa and Walkabouts, I've gigged the original Walkabout and gigged the Carbine (M6 and M9). I'm much more on the Carbine side of town.

 

[Al Kraft]

Regarding product videos, I think they can be a good way to learn about features and they can be entertaining. But I never go by how they sound. Way too many variables on the playing (player, type of bass and settings, style), production (recording equipment and technique) and listening (what am I listening on, when am I listening, etc.).

What I prefer to do is, if the gear's characteristics (price, size, feature set, anticipated sound, etc) fit my needs, get my hands on a copy. Borrow, rent, buy (used if it's been out for a while). My home is better than trying anything out in a store or reading about something on the internet. The final test is always on a gig. If it works there, it may be a keeper.

Very, very, very few pieces of gear have I been able to determine if it's a keeper or not in a day or two. It usually takes a few months. And a few gigs. But if it passes, it usually stays with me for quite a while.

To brings this back to Mesa and Walkabouts, I've gigged the original Walkabout and gigged the Carbine (M6 and M9). I'm much more on the Carbine side of town.

My guess is that you'll hear a lot more WA than Carbine in the WD-800, but if either was too much of their own unique good thing at times, you might find this amp interesting and at least fun to audition. FWIW, my Carbines got the call to duty more often than my WA's when there was a need to sit cleanly/clearly in a louder rock mix. The WA worked best for me with smaller groups where that big warm sound filled a lot of holes and the volume requirements didn't get me into that "out of control region".

 

[bucephylus]

I thought the demo sounded great, showed off the (considerable) features of the amp, and that Andy nailed what I recall about the WA sound in a more powerful format. Nice sounding amp. FWIW.

 

[megaboogie]

Would love to hear initial impression from people who just received their WD890.

 

[mmbass21]

UPS changed my delivery date from today to tomorrow...drool

 

[Lowendtech]

people who just received their WD890.

What???? There’s an 890 now?
I guess there’ll be some used WD800’s popping up in the CL’s any day now.

 

[sstillwell]

Mean people suck, and some people ain't happy unless they're unhappy...and hopefully bringing you along for the ride. 'Nuf said. Moar Subway, plzkthx.

 

[J.Wolf]

I thought this was a very effective demonstration. It can be improved upon but it focuses on the features.

All thats missing is a decent source sound and mediocre technique. Is that really the loop that best matches the tone people are looking to preamplify? jesus.

 

[Lowendtech]

Mean people suck, and some people ain't happy unless they're unhappy...and hopefully bringing you along for the ride. 'Nuf said. Moar Subway, plzkthx.

The world needs more Canadians.
Yes, more Canadians with Mesa gear.
That’ll fix everything.

 

[J.Wolf]

I've never heard so much string and fret noise in a product demo

I have. This is actually a great product demo. If you don't like Duffy's playing thats fine, but the video itself is actually a great representation of the scope of that the WD800 can do. it can do bright and zingy, hence the string and fret noise. If it didnt have treble or tone shaping knobs, I'd be upset too. But it does, and they allow you to control that. And, some people want that level of articulation/brightness, so the demo addresses that, as well as a number of other usable tones.