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New mesa subway amps and cabs!
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You do respectable job feigning annoyance, but I know that you know that I know you love posting pics.
Yes very true. Talent, beauty, and for 10 years the lady in my life.
Yep, I'm lucky
Oh good gravy!!! Too sweet!
I love my Fearless F112, but I keep having visions of a SW115 under a SW212.. with a WD800
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Yes very true. Talent, beauty, and for 10 years the lady in my life.
Yep, I'm lucky
Blessings man. Even better when both people see it the same way.
TL/DR: WD 800 is Freaking GREAT The D800 is kick @55 this is a different beast but, still familiar.hey /\/\, I'm in Livertown, but am gigging tonight myself so no Turlock for me tonight.
I'm certainly interested in what you have to say about the performance of the WD-800.
safe driving and have a good gig
I loved the D800, but missed an intangible "something" from my previous foray with the Titan V12.
the WD-800 has that "thing" going on.
Report:
It was a sketchy drive, the roads were partially flooded, and too many people driving like they weren't!
Turnout was really good considering the weather and holiday recovery period still in effect. (@150+)
A good time was had by all.
@pfschim Where in Livertown? R-Place, Sauced?
Moving on to the impressions of the Mesa Engineering WD-800. (contrasting with the D800)
Last night's Cast:
G&L L2500 (passive mode only) EB cobalt flats (@Doug Parent bass knob fully clockwise on the L)
Squier VMPV with year old (yet still bright Sadowsky Blue label Nickels) upgraded bridge and electronics.
Output signal sent via Shure GLXD (NO effects compressor ETC)
Into Mesa WD-800 feeding Subway 115 On a 3 ft high table.
This venue has 2 JBL subs (one on each side of the stage (EEK) right next to me!
Tonite no soundcheck (only signal check) as we have played there many times before and the profile for us and a scene is saved in the house board. A bit of my signal fed to the drummer's monitor gave a me a "sense" of the FOH signal.
First note: As good as the DI on the D800 is: seemingly the WD800 is "improved". The signal seems to be a bit too strong on the D800, but the WD800 drew no complaint and the meters on the board were not peaking on the previously saved preset on the Allen and Heath board
This is good! I previously compensated with my pedalboard by backing off the chain output at my compressor
before sending it to the amp>DI.I ran the D800 ALMOST flat (only room adjust and fed with an HPF and compressor into the frontend)
Treated the WD800 similarly.
Settings: (general / starting point)
4/8 ohm position
Pre-eq, line level on DI
Passive / active switch (mostly) in passive position.
Input volume at 10:00 (OD light occasionally flashing)
HPF started at fully counter clockwise and slowly increased till not conflicting with the aforementioned Subs (landed @ 8:00)
All PEQ was ignored for tonite (all up at noon)
Bass left flat.
Passive Mid landed @3:00
Treble 12:00
Master @ 10:00
Low DF
SW115's tweeter was on and @ 9:00 on the attenuator
-Later sets I ran the master up to @5:00, cut the input back to 0+ (more on that later)
Observations / ramblings:
Brighter than the D800. Although it was brighter it was not overly so: not grating like GK tends to be (IMHO)
Punchy, as expected. Articulate : the passive mid was like a hot knife in butter for the "cut through / Sit in the mix" adjustments. (ended up at @ 3:00 with the L2500 12:00 with the Squier)
LOTS of SWEET complex harmonics going on.
The Damping knob is thus far my favorite feature, between the pushed just before OD tube, and the DF the result is what I used my Whirlwind OC comp for: a bit of "slowing" and bloom to the note / attack envelope, warming it up.
Articulate without being sterile. Very warm SUPER dynamic - really touch responsive.
More bottom on tap than I will ever use!
The ONLY reason I touched the knobs was to "experiment" One of these bears out suppositions from headphone sessions at home. The WD-800 has a different character when run like a tube amp (master cranked- input for volume)
It is deeper, rounder, more bouncy, and cleaner run this way a smidge "colder" especially nice with the DF set on High.
with the active switch engaged the input knob becomes less "twitchy"
I'll ramble more after next week at the Wrangler Bar (no FOH and a difficult room with low ceiling stage) which will be more telling: I'll use the 112/115 there.
Last note: I'm not fond of the OD tone on the WD-800 the spongey slightly gritty "just" hitting peak is great especially when engaging the active switch and pumping the input to @ 3:00 just into overdrive zone.
Summary :
R Place. be there again next month and Sauced in Feb as well. Used to play Double Barrel 2x /month before it closed.
nice report on the WD-800. Not making me want one any less
At least this way I have someone to blame for the Sparkle SpamYou do respectable job feigning annoyance, but I know that you know that I know you love posting pics.
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@agedhorse - Andy, is there any problem running running the amp in 2 ohm mode into an 8 ohm cab, other than lower power?
Quick question about the cabinet being so far off the ground.
I remember reading here that anything over about 2' tall looses low end due to a loss in coupling with the floor.
What is the difference in low end between the cabinet being on the floor instead of on that stand?
2nd question, where did you get that stand?
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Not a problem at all.
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In general a couple of feet isn't going to make any practical difference. Otherwise the SVT 810 would be a "disaster" (which it obviously isn't)
Is there a rule of thumb about how high is too high?
I've been using a step stool to bet my GB 2x12 about 18" off the ground which makes it much easier to hear on a shallow stage.
Curious how far I could go with a 1x15 SW without a loss in low end.
I've been using a step stool to bet my GB 2x12 about 18" off the ground which makes it much easier to hear on a shallow stage.
Curious how far I could go with a 1x15 SW without a loss in low end.
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About the same shouldn't be an issue. You will hear the mids more clearly which may give the impression of less low end, but the measurement data supports my general thoughts.
OK
I was thinking that with a 1x15, the height would be more like 3'6" which might alter low end out front.
I was thinking that with a 1x15, the height would be more like 3'6" which might alter low end out front.
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It's not the size of the driver but the distance to the floor boundary relative to the wavelength of the signal. Everything interacts, how significant is less precise and more subjective.
