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New Origin Effects DCX Bass

#82
Jtown690 said:
Compression position is a personal thing and also use type thing for sure.



at the moment I run my Cali76 first in my chain. But with how reactive the DCX is I’m guessing having a comp in front of it isn’t going to react like it should/could because of the altered dynamics.
That’s why I pointed to the 6176. I want to hear what Origin has to say about it.
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That's my issue with running a comp first before any pedal...if you limit the dynamic range from the very start you limit all of your following pedal.. yes you can use a lower threshold and ratio but if your going to do that you can do it at the end and have full range of all your pedals.... Am I wrong?
 
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#83
odarellmc said:
That's my issue with running a comp first before any pedal...if you limit the dynamic range from the very start you limit all of your following pedal.. yes you can use a lower threshold and ratio but if your going to do that you can do it at the end and have full range of all your pedals.... Am I wrong?
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Nope.
Not wrong.
Yes, you can limit the dynamic range of all pedals downstream, by having a comp up front.
But, it can also even out the dynamic range of some pedals that swing too far in either direction, and make them more useable.
JMNSFHO.
 
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#84
dedpool1052 said:
Nope.
Not wrong.
Yes, you can limit the dynamic range of all pedals downstream, by having a comp up front.
But, it can also even out the dynamic range of some pedals that swing too far in either direction, and make them more useable.
JMNSFHO.
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Then I think a case can be made that if they do swing to far in either direction you should be able to limit the range on a per pedal basis. That's probably an issue for another topic...I found this to be true of the pedas I use, ymmv
 
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#85
Derek Williams said:
Arrived 15 mins ago. First impressions are excellent. Both clean and overdriven is great, the overdrive is probably the most dynamic I've played. Can get the OD set to breakup only when digging in, and the adaptive voice works perfect in those instances.

I think the only thing that could improve it is having it in a larger box with separate level and drive controls for EQ and OD mode. The Cali76 size would be perfect. There is quite a volume difference when switching modes, which is probably expected, but separate controls would have fixed that. I might have to just buy a second one :D

Otherwise: this thing is great!

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Are you running it into the Caveman BP-1C?

I'm thinking of doing the same.
 
#87
Jtown690 said:
You think it would it be best to put the DCX bass in front of a Cali76 compact bass in most cases? As an example does UA’s 6176 have the 610 first and then an 1176?
Direct to console then compress as needed?
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odarellmc said:
Depends on how you want to use it? Eq or OD. Personally I use the compressor last in my chain to glue everything together. I've always had much success running my compressor last.
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"Depends on how you use it" and how you want it to sound are probably the most concise answer to this question. We always recommend people experiment with placement themselves as ultimately, it's a very personal choice.

I don't think there is an absolute order we can prescribe for the DCX BASS, there are plenty of reasons to have it before your comp, plenty of reasons to have it after your comp. Whilst UA have an order set in their 6176 rack unit, I suspect that's largely because "yeah you need to amplify a signal first", obviously on a pedalboard that consideration isn't necessarily the same and being able to order swap the two offers a lot of flexability.

We do monthly 'Tech Tips' articles on our website, I've made "DCX Placement" a priority for next month (if I remember, I'll come back and link it in this thread). Whilst there isn't an absolute best order, we'll go into the merits of each placement and what considerations people should be making when approaching the two.

I appreciate this isn't a sexy answer to the question, but it's probably more realistic. I think a full article is a more appropriate way of getting the details across.

Certainly lots of fun to be had trying it both ways, neither of which are by any means incorrect.

- Jacob
 
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Origin_Effects said:
"Depends on how you use it" and how you want it to sound are probably the most concise answer to this question. We always recommend people experiment with placement themselves as ultimately, it's a very personal choice.

I don't think there is an absolute order we can prescribe for the DCX BASS, there are plenty of reasons to have it before you comp, plenty of reasons to have it after your comp. Whilst UA have an order set in their 6176 rack unit, I suspect that's largely because "yeah you need to amplify a signal first", obviously on a pedalboard that consideration isn't necessarily the same and being able to order swap the two offers a lot of flexability.

We do monthly 'Tech Tips' articles on our website, I've made "DCX Placement" a priority for next month (if I remember, I'll come back and link it in this thread). Whilst there isn't an absolute best order, we'll go into the merits of each placement and what considerations people should be making when approaching the two.

I appreciate this isn't a sexy answer to the question, but it's probably more realistic. I think a full article is a more appropriate way of getting the details across.

Certainly lots of fun to be had trying it both ways, neither of which are by any means incorrect.
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sexy or not you’re here answering the peoples question And it totally makes sense. You guys are rad. Thank you!
 
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@Origin_Effects thanks for listening to us players! Much appreciated. Here is my early feedback / suggestion.

On my current board, I use two distinct pedals:
  • An overdrive for obvious saturation
  • A preamp + boost (after the drive) to fill up sonic space when needed
Now, if you could come up with a "DCX stacked edition" (like your compressor) with two foot switches; DCX could potentially replace both pedals :D

I have a DCX on order already; and might have to toss a coin to decide which one it should replace. Two separate DCX's is not a budget friendly idea.
 
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#91
Scott Williams said:
For me I'm looking at the DCX as a boost/drive pedal in frount of my BassRig SV. It's not that I couldn't probably get about the same effect by cracking up the BassRig gain, I just don't want to fiddle with pedal knobs during a gig.
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I thought about this as well, but decided against it because there’s no means of turning down the output when the DCX is engaged to increase the BassRig’s drive. Maybe that’s a non-issue for you, but for me it’s a deal breaker.
 
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#93
But is this DCX a drive pedal?
I’m interested in what it would be like for me if I left on DI out of my Bassrig and used the DCX to get a direct to console tone but also use it as an overdrive pedal on a different song but I’m wondering if an actual Bass Overdrive pedal with blend,tone etc will be coming out. I’d definitely be interested in a 2 channel OD/Dist origin bass pedal.
 
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Rikipip said:
But is this DCX a drive pedal?
I’m interested in what it would be like for me if I left on DI out of my Bassrig and used the DCX to get a direct to console tone but also use it as an overdrive pedal on a different song but I’m wondering if an actual Bass Overdrive pedal with blend,tone etc will be coming out. I’d definitely be interested in a 2 channel OD/Dist origin bass pedal.
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It's definitely a drive pedal. You can get a bit of break up in EQ mode, but switching to OD mode gives you about the same drive range as a BassRig.
 
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