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Double Bass New! Pirastro Perpetual Double Bass strings

these strings sound great . a lot of good recommendations. i. currently am using superflexblies on my cared bass, but the bass feels tight to me. tight on my left hand. i use it to practice arco with.
would appreciate any comments comparing Perpetuals to Superflexblies
thanks in advance!
 
these strings sound great . a lot of good recommendations. i. currently am using superflexblies on my cared bass, but the bass feels tight to me. tight on my left hand. i use it to practice arco with.
would appreciate any comments comparing Perpetuals to Superflexblies
thanks in advance!

These are more flexible in my experience. Did you find on your bass superflexibles to be uncomfortably bright the first month? I put superflexible on my Juzek and couldn’t stand how winy and bright the strings were. I’m sure they would have died down but I went back to spiros for a bowing gig I had.

Perpetuals are very nice and fun out of the package but I love them broken in now. I haven’t had a ton of playing time this past month and a half but they are settling in well both pizz and arco. I’m considering picking up another set because im not sure I’ll go back to spiros this time. Im waiting to see how long they last me. If it’s till August I’m hooked
 
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my superflexblies g string seems to my ear to be a bit fuzzy. my Wultur bass seems tight. i am using spirocore med for the e string. maybe thats causing the "tight " problem . Maybe that is causing my tight perception.
don't know
 
So fellas, I don’t know that I have the same warm fuzzies as you. The Perpetuals are significantly brighter than Spirocore, and they are pretty thin (this is coming from a guy who used to play Corellis). I played a pretty high profile jazz gig this weekend and used the bass with them for one of my three nights. Some guys in the band said they preferred my bass with the Spiro/Flex Deluxe combo. I think I’m going to go back to my Spiro/Obligato set, but I’m going to give it a while longer. I did take several videos of the entire process of restringing with these, and have video footage of the gig as well, with both instruments. Let me know if you want to check that out...gotta do some editing but I can get it up here.
 
So fellas, I don’t know that I have the same warm fuzzies as you. The Perpetuals are significantly brighter than Spirocore, and they are pretty thin (this is coming from a guy who used to play Corellis). I played a pretty high profile jazz gig this weekend and used the bass with them for one of my three nights. Some guys in the band said they preferred my bass with the Spiro/Flex Deluxe combo. I think I’m going to go back to my Spiro/Obligato set, but I’m going to give it a while longer. I did take several videos of the entire process of restringing with these, and have video footage of the gig as well, with both instruments. Let me know if you want to check that out...gotta do some editing but I can get it up here.

The E string is significantly brighter but the D and G are darker IMO.
 
I bit the bullet and got a set of Perpetuals.

I'm mainly a classical guy, so here is my review for anyone considering these strings as an orchestral/solo bassist.

To be as succinct as possible, I love them. I think that they have pretty quickly become my favorite set of strings that I've used, though I think they are still breaking in at this point. In the past I have tried flex deluxe, flexocor, bel cantos, and spiros. Out of these strings I found that I really loved spiros because they had an incredible ring and the largest sound of any string I used. This to me was really important, and why I liked spiros, but they have (as you may know) pretty heavy drawbacks in their response time, and brightness. I play on a new instrument (made by Mike Shank) so my bass naturally has a very bright sound, and at times the brightness of the sprios led to a brittle sound. Basically anything above the second G on the G string required vibrato in order to be warm enough to listen to. Flex deluxe and flexocor were both great strings in terms of response, but they lacked a singing quality that I really wanted for solo playing. Bel Cantos have that singing quality, but they don't really sound great to me, and I have trouble getting strong articulation with them. Now, onto my experience with the perps... They are pretty low tension strings. They have a ton of give, and at times I accidentally get them vibrating into the fingerboard which isn't ideal. However, they have that characteristic spirocore sustain, brightness, and volume, while being a tad darker and much much better response. Perpetuals ring forever, they have incredible richness and overtones, and I feel like almost make your bass sound like you're playing in a church or boomy concert hall in a small practice room. That being said, they have fantastic articulation response, and I've been getting a cleaner brush stroke than ever. If you are an orchestra player that loves the sound of spiros but hate the way that they respond, I could not recommend perpetuals any more. I think that these strings are fantastic for orchestra playing given the response, sound, and darkness, and I think that they are equally impressive for solos given the sheer amount of volume you can produce with them. When I was looking into these strings I heard them billed as "spiros with a darker sound and better response" and to me, that's exactly what they are.

Review over. Cheers.
 
I bit the bullet and got a set of Perpetuals.

I'm mainly a classical guy, so here is my review for anyone considering these strings as an orchestral/solo bassist.

To be as succinct as possible, I love them. I think that they have pretty quickly become my favorite set of strings that I've used, though I think they are still breaking in at this point. In the past I have tried flex deluxe, flexocor, bel cantos, and spiros. Out of these strings I found that I really loved spiros because they had an incredible ring and the largest sound of any string I used. This to me was really important, and why I liked spiros, but they have (as you may know) pretty heavy drawbacks in their response time, and brightness. I play on a new instrument (made by Mike Shank) so my bass naturally has a very bright sound, and at times the brightness of the sprios led to a brittle sound. Basically anything above the second G on the G string required vibrato in order to be warm enough to listen to. Flex deluxe and flexocor were both great strings in terms of response, but they lacked a singing quality that I really wanted for solo playing. Bel Cantos have that singing quality, but they don't really sound great to me, and I have trouble getting strong articulation with them. Now, onto my experience with the perps... They are pretty low tension strings. They have a ton of give, and at times I accidentally get them vibrating into the fingerboard which isn't ideal. However, they have that characteristic spirocore sustain, brightness, and volume, while being a tad darker and much much better response. Perpetuals ring forever, they have incredible richness and overtones, and I feel like almost make your bass sound like you're playing in a church or boomy concert hall in a small practice room. That being said, they have fantastic articulation response, and I've been getting a cleaner brush stroke than ever. If you are an orchestra player that loves the sound of spiros but hate the way that they respond, I could not recommend perpetuals any more. I think that these strings are fantastic for orchestra playing given the response, sound, and darkness, and I think that they are equally impressive for solos given the sheer amount of volume you can produce with them. When I was looking into these strings I heard them billed as "spiros with a darker sound and better response" and to me, that's exactly what they are.

Review over. Cheers.
Thank you — appreciated!
 
I wasn’t planning on changing strings until May ‘20, but now I’m a little curious.

How do the “Perps” compare to the following sets?:
EP weich
Flex Deluxe

As a 50/50 arco/pizz player, I jumped on the EP (weich) bandwagon a few years ago, and have been satisfied with them. My hybrid bass has a fairly even response, but I want a low end that has a clearer purring quality, with more overall harmonic complexity.

I tried a Flex Deluxe set (for a day) recently, but was not comfortable with the stiffness and felt as if I needed to work harder to get the strings to speak.

Thanks for the input!
 
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I wasn’t planning on changing strings until May ‘20, but now I’m a little curious.

How do the “Perps” compare to the following sets?:
EP weich
Flex Deluxe

As a 50/50 arco/pizz player, I jumped on the EP (weich) bandwagon a few years ago, and have been satisfied with them. My hybrid bass has a fairly even response, but I want a low end that has a clearer purring quality, with more overall harmonic complexity.

I tried a Flex Deluxe set (for a day) recently, but was not comfortable with the stiffness and felt as if I needed to work harder to get the strings to speak.

Thanks for the input!

You may like them. Maybe closer to Evah weich tension. More sustain or "purr". I say try them.
 
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