I ordered one from guitar center because of the liberal return policy in case I didn't like it, but just from the afternoon of playing I don't think I'm going to be taking use of that policy. Like I said, the gigs will tell...
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New Quilter bass amp!
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First gig report, it's a great speaker, not much else to say. Tonally it's in the same league as the AK thunderchild that I had and if you look at some of my posts on this site I raved about the tone of that cabinet but unfortunately I had rattling problems. This speaker definitely in the same league tonally, but feels more solid. The AK always had a delicate field to me. Some of the other speakers I have tried from boutique makers gave the impression of this speaker sounds great for its size. The quilter just sounds great. It's not especially small. They made it the size that it needed to be to produce good tone .I don't feel that it's a compromise at all like some of the other things I have tried where maybe you give up some tone for weight
Shwa, I haven't read this whole thread, are you using a quilter head? I have the bb800 and have been considering the bassdock 12, mostly for doubling, excited to hear more of you thoughts and experiences with these components.
Yes a quilter head, I like it very much but I do have to say with my upright I am using a preamp in front of it and going into the normal input. I get my tone in the general ballpark with the preamp and high pass filter, and make adjustments on the fly with the quilter tone knobs
That's what I'm doing as well, for me it's either fdeck or hxstomp out front. Kind of weird having two hpf's (low knob on quilter), but it does sound really good that way. I look at the eq on the Mesa wd800 and cringe, too much for me to mess up!
so twisting it one way it's a HPF and twisting it the other way it's a low pass booster?
pretty big difference, that i cant go into now, but there are several threads on talkbass outlining this
I know there are differences but I think if you reread how I phrased it those differences are inclusive. A low shelving filter boosts or cuts below a fixed frequency. A HPF only cuts.
I guess it depends where the knees are on the BB shelf as to whether it is functionally a HPF in that direction. It would be 800w of hell on speakers in the other direction unless there is a underhood HPF to go with!
a low shelving filter cuts below a certain frequency in a shelf pattern. a hpf cuts everything below the corner based on a db per octave slope. confusing, but definitely not the same, and im only talking about the cutting aspect.
I have both and the WD 800 is way easier than it looks, both sound great
Yup, I've been setting the mids and HPF up to work with my Kay M1, then I footswitch it out when I go to the solid-body electric or as we'd say back n da day, the fender bass (whether it was a Fender product or not)
I like the 3 band para mids and the passive mid control and of course the HPF. All you really have to do is, use your ear. Fool around with it a bit, record your best settings in the back of your manual until you get the hang of it and the feel of what's happening with the knobs. In due time, you'll get to the point you can dial up whatever you need without looking, trust me
There was a discussion about this over here:
Using Parametric EQ as a Poor Man's HPF?
It's closed for comments and you'll have to wade through some fussin' but there's some good info there
Great comparison. I think the confusion is caused by the graphic on the front panel of the BB800. The graphic implies it might work as a HPF when turned to the left, but I think that might be more of a visual shorthand cue (like an emoji on your smartphone) rather than an accurate frequency graph. If I had to take a totally random guess, based on how I think Pat Quilter's brain works, the 'Depth' control probably has at least EQ two bands, I'm guessing maybe variable shelving at 100hz and fixed HPF at 30hz? and Pat has carefully studied the "desirable" sonic qualities of vintage tube amps.
When I compare my Broughton always-on HPF to my BB800's Depth control, my ears hear something a bit more "surgical" happening with the HPF. My favorite EQ setting on the BB800 is Depth 10 o'clock and Contour 2 o'clock. This gives a nice midrange-forward 'vintage' tone that sits well in the mix and doesn't really need a cab sim.
I'd love to see some graphs or details on the Quilter EQ. I suspect there is more going on than just a simple shelving eq.
I believe the "Depth" is a shelving eq with a 100hz... and I think the "contour" to the right is a treble cut with the knee at 100hz.
