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New Sire P Basses!

Well that's undoubtably the silliest thing I've heard on here for a while...
I kind of agree with cflat,
However, yahboy's also got a point in that the Sire headstock -while certainly not the worst- doesn't exactly scream "style" or "good design".

Still, if I needed a good Jazz and didn't have the scratch for a Skyline, I'd probably buy a Sire. I can live with an ungainly headstock if the rest of the instrument is solid and looks classy.
 
I kind of agree with cflat,
However, yahboy's also got a point in that the Sire headstock -while certainly not the worst- doesn't exactly scream "style" or "good design".

Still, if I needed a good Jazz and didn't have the scratch for a Skyline, I'd probably buy a Sire. I can live with an ungainly headstock if the rest of the instrument is solid and looks classy.

It's not ungainly, just different..Perfectly balanced...There are tons of 'Fender style' headstocks, that the design can't be too close to..That's a bit limiting.

Personally although this is a very nice looking bass, I'm a player, I don't buy an instrument for it's looks..If this was truly ugly, and I needed more jazz basses, I would buy 3 more of them.
 
I'm digging those M7 models:

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It's not ungainly, just different..Perfectly balanced...
...I'm a player, I don't buy an instrument for it's looks.
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We're into different strokes territory here. Nothing about that ungainly headstock says "perfectly balanced" to me. Definitely agree about being a "player" though. Tone and playability are top priority.

My thought is that there's such variety at all price points now that you don't usually have to have sacrifice one of those even at the "affordable" instrument level.

I think alot of folks -almost even me, though not quite- would probably hold up Sire as an example of how you can have looks, playability and tone in one affordable package.
 
:roflmao:

My thought is that there's such variety at all price points now that you don't usually have to have sacrifice one of those even at the "affordable" instrument level.

Well I guess you have to actually have one..I have a flock of basses just sitting around here staring at me now..I only use one, because it is superior to all my other ex favourite basses...and it is perfectly balanced. Other bassists want to know 'what the hell that is' because its the most 'killer sounding bass you ever had'
 
Well I guess you have to actually have one..I have a flock of basses just sitting around here staring at me now..I only use one, because it is superior to all my other ex favourite basses...and it is perfectly balanced. Other bassists want to know 'what the hell that is' because its the most 'killer sounding bass you ever had'
Just to clarify, are we talking about the bass balance or the look of the headstock?

I've no doubt that the bass is physically balanced, the big bodies of Jazz basses mean that they rarely have any issues with neck dive.

My comment was about the aesthetics. I don't want to harp on it too much though. A classy bass with a mediocre headstock (my opinion of the Sire) is still a good looking bass, just not a great looking bass.
 
I find the Sire V7 headstock has been inspired more or less from this 'duck beak' shape below...

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Maybe there's a little resmblance if flipped and recut, but I doubt it had any bearing on the Sire design. The Marcus Miller headstock is just a fender headstock with the bottom smoothed like Sadowsky or Lakland and the end blunted.
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I find the Sire V7 headstock has been inspired more or less from this 'duck beak' shape below...

Carvin-JB4-Classic-Jazz-Bass-Headstock-620x284.jpg
I honestly like the Sire headstock better than this Carvin headstock. I'm rather less fond of the big headstock on the M3 and M7, as well, but it's livable. :)
 
Just to clarify, are we talking about the bass balance or the look of the headstock?

I've no doubt that the bass is physically balanced, the big bodies of Jazz basses mean that they rarely have any issues with neck dive.

My comment was about the aesthetics. I don't want to harp on it too much though. A classy bass with a mediocre headstock (my opinion of the Sire) is still a good looking bass, just not a great looking bass.

Well the aesthetics are a matter of personal taste..Looks are in the eye of the beholder...If the headstock was carved like a pile of bear barf ...I could see the minor problem
 
Let's start the discussion on this soon to be sought after basses. I just ordered a P7 5 string, Natural finish and hope to have the bass by July 15 before I leave for a tour. I tried the V7 4,5, M3 and M7. All have been great and I have high expectations for the P7. I have really needed an active P/J 5 string. And now my favorite bass company is making one. I have a Fender Elite 4 string which is a P/J, but sometimes when I'm playing behind female vocalist or in church I need the 5 stringer w/ a P pup.
 
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How many here plays mostly four string but own five string as well?

I am now in a dilemma..should I get a five string instead the four I ordered?
I am still learning and playing (very bad but trying my best) different brand/model 4 string basses so I am not tied up to any specific neck size or string space.
Recently I got a great deal on a Sterling Ray 35 and to my surprise I am having less difficulty to to play it than I thought I would have. For sure I miss one or more string sometimes but I still can use it, hence the doubt now if I should swap my 4 to a 5 instead.
I just don't wanna do the move to later regret and let the P7 collecting dust. :)
 
How many here plays mostly four string but own five string as well?

I am now in a dilemma..should I get a five string instead the four I ordered?
I am still learning and playing (very bad but trying my best) different brand/model 4 string basses so I am not tied up to any specific neck size or string space.
Recently I got a great deal on a Sterling Ray 35 and to my surprise I am having less difficulty to to play it than I thought I would have. For sure I miss one or more string sometimes but I still can use it, hence the doubt now if I should swap my 4 to a 5 instead.
I just don't wanna do the move to later regret and let the P7 collecting dust. :)

In short, play what you're comfortable with. There is nothing wrong with being able to play a 5 stringer. It works better in some styles of music. Being proficient a 4 and 5 string basses will never work against you.