• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

New SQUIER VM series!!

Status
Not open for further replies.
My fiancé swore that I was done with bass purchases for at least another year after my last acquisition. I was pretty much content but the 5 string bug is something that always lurks within me. I spent a lot of time using just a VMJ5 and aside from pickups and weight (and the fact that I wished it was a P), I had zero complaints about it. I was almost going to pull the trigger on a USP5 until I decided last minute on a NAV58 (big mistake).

Now that these P5's are out, I'm going to have to figure a way to sweet talk her come bonus time. Of all things, a P5 was the last thing I was expecting Squier to come out with or I would have been more prepared.

I like that they have a gloss neck...looks better from the front, IMO, especially if there's a touch of tint. It makes it even worse that they release one in almost the exact color combo I would have been looking for in a USP5...CAR. Close enough to Candy Cola to get me excited for sure. Like I said, if these have the same necks as the VMJ5 and are not too bad weight wise, it would be very hard for me to find fault with them.
 
The 5-ers all still have the same design flaw with the B string: too tight against the nut so that the B string binds; one piece neck will have dead spots; P-pickup too far upstream to get clarity on the B string; upper horn not long enough to balance 5 tuners, just 4.

To make a Fender-style 5-er, at the very least, the neck should be a lefty instead of a righty, and the P-pickup segments should be reversed to position, so the BEA segment is closer to the bridge to get more overtones and prompt intonation from the B string.

But you still have problems with neck dive, so the upper horn really needs to be longer, etc.

The 5-er is its own instrument, and should be designed accordingly, not just as a tacked on string to standard 4-string designs.
 
The 5-ers all still have the same design flaw with the B string: too tight against the nut so that the B string binds; one piece neck will have dead spots; P-pickup too far upstream to get clarity on the B string; upper horn not long enough to balance 5 tuners, just 4.

To make a Fender-style 5-er, at the very least, the neck should be a lefty instead of a righty, and the P-pickup segments should be reversed to position, so the BEA segment is closer to the bridge to get more overtones and prompt intonation from the B string.

But you still have problems with neck dive, so the upper horn really needs to be longer, etc.

The 5-er is its own instrument, and should be designed accordingly, not just as a tacked on string to standard 4-string designs.

Dead spots are a given. I don't have a problem with the B being snug against the space beyond the nut...seems to be decent witness point and I didn't have a problem on my VMJ5 regarding this. As far as pickup orientation, I agree that reversing it would help enhance the B's clarity, but is something that didn't really bother me on the USP5's that I've played. I'm wagering these bodies will be just big and heavy enough to counter any neckdive, but I may be wrong. I experienced neckdive on the Lakland Bob Glaub 5's I've tried, but not so much on the US Fenders. We'll see.
 
I've something to show you, look what UPS truck have delivered!

Here it is, Squier Vintage Modified Precision Bass V in sunburst
9452562594_9f3cf25f5f_c.jpg


I was aware that Squier never took much effort matching pieces of wood under transparent finishes, it was true this time too, sadly. But I did want sunburst anyway and took the risk. The demarcation is very visible but that's clearly not a high-en product either. Oh well.

9452565780_5f3af38a81_c.jpg

9449787255_c8c3379864_c.jpg

9449794789_f9a67d3d07_c.jpg


Other than that, the finish is nice overal, no bubbles, scratches or runs, it is glossy and shiny. The maple neck has a rather light and unobtrusive vintage tint, unlike some series closer to nuclear waste orange than naturally tanned maple.

9449791907_6c3b061832_c.jpg


Made in Indonesia
9449798151_de24f687da_c.jpg


9452583918_40d678e234_c.jpg


Starting to adapt to its working environment :)
Please note the colours are not true to the reality: in real life they are more tamed. My phone exaggerate colours a lot, especially in bad lightning conditions like this one.
9452588380_95f0b65982_c.jpg


I've removed the pickguard to take a look inside.

A "swimming pool" rout
9453047900_7bda4a2600_c.jpg


16mm Alpha pots. And, surprisingly, "vintage" waxed cloth covered wires going from pickup to electronics!
9450268985_c3ae00c317_c.jpg


There is conductive carbon shielding in the pickup and electronics cavity.
9450272653_1f63528ae3_c.jpg


Surprise! The pickup's suspension combines springs and foam
9450276023_e5ae83e448_c.jpg


The pickup itself is built around alnico rod magnets, the coil is rather shallow. Looks more like underwound than overwound. I'll measure the impedance later.
9453061930_fa649c0992_c.jpg



Now, how does it play?
It came with lousy set up, hard to play. The nut grooves were too high, truss rod almost not tightened at all and bridge too high. I've filed the nut, and now am in the process of the setting up the action, neck relief and stuff. It will play better I am sure.

No sound clips yet, will post something this week if free time decides to collaborate :)
 
I've something to show you, look what UPS truck have delivered!

Here it is, Squier Vintage Modified Precision Bass V in sunburst
9452562594_9f3cf25f5f_c.jpg


I was aware that Squier never took much effort matching pieces of wood under transparent finishes, it was true this time too, sadly. But I did want sunburst anyway and took the risk. The demarcation is very visible but that's clearly not a high-en product either. Oh well.

9452565780_5f3af38a81_c.jpg

9449787255_c8c3379864_c.jpg

9449794789_f9a67d3d07_c.jpg


Other than that, the finish is nice overal, no bubbles, scratches or runs, it is glossy and shiny. The maple neck has a rather light and unobtrusive vintage tint, unlike some series closer to nuclear waste orange than naturally tanned maple.

9449791907_6c3b061832_c.jpg


Made in Indonesia
9449798151_de24f687da_c.jpg


9452583918_40d678e234_c.jpg


Starting to adapt to its working environment :)
Please note the colours are not true to the reality: in real life they are more tamed. My phone exaggerate colours a lot, especially in bad lightning conditions like this one.
9452588380_95f0b65982_c.jpg


I've removed the pickguard to take a look inside.

A "swimming pool" rout
9453047900_7bda4a2600_c.jpg


16mm Alpha pots. And, surprisingly, "vintage" waxed cloth covered wires going from pickup to electronics!
9450268985_c3ae00c317_c.jpg


There is conductive carbon shielding in the pickup and electronics cavity.
9450272653_1f63528ae3_c.jpg


Surprise! The pickup's suspension combines springs and foam
9450276023_e5ae83e448_c.jpg


The pickup itself is built around alnico rod magnets, the coil is rather shallow. Looks more like underwound than overwound. I'll measure the impedance later.
9453061930_fa649c0992_c.jpg



Now, how does it play?
It came with lousy set up, hard to play. The nut grooves were too high, truss rod almost not tightened at all and bridge too high. I've filed the nut, and now am in the process of the setting up the action, neck relief and stuff. It will play better I am sure.

No sound clips yet, will post something this week if free time decides to collaborate :)

What's the weight?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.