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New Stingray Special or New Flea Bass?

New Stingray Special or New Flea Bass?

  • Stingray Special

    Votes: 318 87.4%
  • Fender Flea bass

    Votes: 46 12.6%

  • Total voters
    364
That's a nice rig and a great NBD! How much influence did this thread have/not have?
I agree with the thread that if you break down the basses to their parts and look at them on paper, the EBMM would be the better pick. Also, while Fender has some great basses, if I were pressed to say, I think Ernie Ball is probably more consistent. Also, there is no doubt in my mind that EBMM has basically mastered that active pickup/ humbucker thing. So, I think the poll got it right.

However, the Flea bass is very new and I don't think very many have played one. Also, at the end of the day, a TB poll vs. getting to play one for an hour kinda doesn't even compare. The poll results were something I definitely took into consideration, and even though I went against the result, the fact that the vast majority said EBMM made me weigh the decision much more carefully.
 
I think the Fender Flea looks like a nicely put together bass....and something new/different for folks who like Fender necks.
I would like the looks better if the body had no paint on it.

Custom designed Tim Shaw MM pickup and an Aguilar OBP1 Pre ...so it will sound like a Flea bass.
All maple, quartersawn, graphite reinforced, Fender Jazz Bass neck shaped like a 61/62.
Alder Jazz Bass body shape with no pickguard or front control cavity cover...a bit different, which Fender could really stand to do more of.
Fender's improved version of the Baddass bridge and good Fender tuners.
And simple controls.

What's not to like?

It does need a MusicMan wheel at the heel though. :)
 
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This area where the neck meets the head stock is thick. It looks different from my other jazz bass. Is this unique for this bass?

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I thought this pic shows the quarter sawn cut nicely:

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Also, I have never seen this contouring on the heel of a Fender before. I like it:

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Just some details that I thought were pretty cool.
 
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This area where the neck meets the head stock is thick. It looks different from my other jazz bass. Is this unique for this bass?
Yes, this neck is quite unique, the added frets, the compound radius, the downsized headstock shape and the quartersawn maple. The sample I played felt fantastic im my hands.

Also, I have never seen this contouring on the heel of a Fender before. I like it:
They have done this contouring on the Deluxe and Elites for some time. It is a cool feature.

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I really think that these two basses are more closely spec'd from the standpoint of quality than the poll numbers indicate. I mean, which single component on either bass is really 100% objectively better quality than the other?

Also, I am sorry but I don't buy that EBMM is hand over fist better from a build quality perspective than Fender when looking at models that are comparably priced. There again I think it's fairly an even match.

I am not a Fender fan boy nor a EBMM hater as may have been assumed from my previous posts in this thread, I think they are both incredible.
 
Yes, this neck is quite unique, the added frets, the compound radius, the downsized headstock shape and the quartersawn maple. The sample I played felt fantastic im my hands.

They have done this contouring on the Deluxe and Elites for some time. It is a cool feature.

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I really think that these two basses are more closely spec'd from the standpoint of quality than the poll numbers indicate. I mean, which single component on either bass is really 100% objectively better quality than the other?

Also, I am sorry but I don't buy that EBMM is hand over fist better from a build quality perspective than Fender when looking at models that are comparably priced. There again I think it's fairly an even match.

I am not a Fender fan boy nor a EBMM hater as may have been assumed from my previous posts in this thread, I think they are both incredible.
This is a great post!
 
I've played both and a 90s modulus flea with a lanepoor back to back recently. The fender flea sounded very similar to the modulus which shouldn't surprise anyone. I like this sound a lot it's pretty unique. My only complaint with the fender was the thicker neck. The stingray special however..... might be the best sounding bass I've ever played. It made alembics sound like garbage to me. But hey that's my take.
 
I played a 2005 stingray at sam ash yesterday. it had the same knob configuration as my flea bass. it sounds almost just the same to me. The flea sounded a little better if anything. I am loving this bass.

The one to play is the Modulus Flea, if you can find one. Amazing tone for live shows. Doesn't really translate in the studio, but I'd love to hear how it compares to the Fender. The Modulus Flea was an incredible bass especially for the road.
 
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The one to play is the Modulus Flea, if you can find one. Amazing tone for live shows. Doesn't really translate in the studio, but I'd love to hear how it compares to the Fender. The Modulus Flea was an incredible bass especially for the road.
If I ever see one I will! I have never seen a Modulus in the wild. I am way out in Florida so that may be why...
 
What's not to like?

the color, the execution, the fact that flea doesn't actually play them (custom shop model with a LP pickup), they're overpriced for what it is, and it's probably the lowest bang-for-buck when it comes to a MM style pickup bass.

I say that as a person who enjoys fender. but, i recently was in the market for a MM style bass and I quickly fell in love with, and now own, a stingray special (white/maple, FYI.) I played a well set up (at the music zoo here on long island) fender flea and was really disappointed. sadly, it made me think "oh, thats why he has CS versions of this thing." It just was not as refined as what EBMM does. yes the EBMM is a little more money, but they're exceptionally well made. I don't say that about many things- but they're really making sure that the bass is a sum of its part, so every step of the process is done carefully, and the result is killer.

I also really don't want to sound like an anti-fender guy. The flea bass is nice. it just felt like a nice $1000 bass to me. I know it's somewhat arbitrary for me (someone not making/selling guitars for a living) to say that, but nonetheless, that's what it felt like. the QC is not on the same planet as EBMM at any stage, especially these new specials.

another thing i want to throw into this conversation, is let's not discount the regular stingrays. yes the specials are nice, but any stringray is still a higher grade instrument than the fender flea IMO. the "old" and "new" rays are quite different instruments, and i love them both equally. i'm sad that the fender diddn't find its way into my collection - I really wanted to love it.
 

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Nice StingRay type bass if you like Fender made instruments.
Kinda hard to bitch about an all maple, quarter-sawn, graphite reinforced, Fender Jazz Bass neck shaped like a 61/62 but with a compound neck radius, downsized headstock shape, extra frets and a five screw attachment...still think a wheel at the heel would be great (on all basses).
I agree that this Fender Flea bass could stand to cost a bit less but that goes double for MusicMan.
I have a MusicMan USA SUB bass to fulfill StingRay cravings, of course it cost me way less than current USA Fenders or MusicMan basses.
Don't have any Fenders, I fill the P bass spot with USA made Peaveys.